A lecture
delivered under the auspices of the Bombay National Union by Sri Aurobindo to a
large gathering at Mahajan Wadi, Bombay,
on Sunday, the 19th January, 1908.
My Fellow-Countrymen, Mr Ranade has said that there is no
President here, but that God himself is our President. I accept that remark in
the most reverent spirit, and before addressing you, I ask Him first to inspire
me. I have been asked to speak on the "Needs of the Present
Situation". What is the present situation? What is the situation of this
country today? Just as I was coming in, this paper (showing the copy of the
Bande Mataram newspaper) was
put into my hands, and looking at the first page of it, I saw two items of
news, "The Yugantar Trial, Judgment delivered, the Printer
convicted and sentenced to two years' rigorous imprisonment." The other is
"Another Newspaper Prosecution, The Nabasakti Office sacked and
searched, Printer let out on a bail of Rs 10, 000." This is the situation
of the country today. Do you realise what I mean? There is a creed in India today which calls itself Nationalism, a
creed which has come to you from Bengal. This
is a creed which many of you have accepted when you called yourselves
Nationalists. Have you realised, have you yet realised what that means? Have
you realised what it is that you have taken in hand? Or is it that you have
merely accepted it in the pride of a superior intellectual conviction? You call
yourselves Nationalists. What is Nationalism? Nationalism is not a mere
political programme; Nationalism is a religion that has come from God;
Nationalism is a creed which you shall have to live. Let no man dare to call
himself a Nationalist if he does so merely with a sort of intellectual pride,
thinking that he is more patriotic, thinking that he is something higher than
those who do not call themselves by that name. If you are going to be a
Nationalist, if you are going to assent to this religion of Nationalism, you
must do it in the religious spirit. You must remember that you are the
instruments of God. What is this that has happened in Bengal?
You call yourselves Nationalists, but when this happens to you, what will you
do? This thing is happening daily in Bengal, because, in Bengal,
Nationalism has come to the people as a religion, and it has been accepted as a
religion. But certain forces which are against that religion are trying to
crush its rising strength. It always happens when a new religion is preached,
when God is going to be born in the people, that such forces rise with all
their weapons in their hands to crush the religion. In Bengal
too a new religion, a religion divine and sattwic has been preached and this
religion they are trying with all the weapons at their command to crush. By
what strength are we in Bengal able to
survive? Nationalism has not been crushed. Nationalism is not going to be
crushed. Nationalism survives in the strength of God and it is not possible to
crush it, whatever weapons are brought against it. Nationalism is immortal; Nationalism
can- not die; because it is no human thing, it is God who is working in Bengal. God cannot be killed, God cannot be sent to jail.
When these things happen among you, I say to you solemnly, what will you do?
Will you do as they do in Bengal? (Cries of 'Yes')Don't
lightly say "yes". It is a solemn thing; and suppose that God puts
you this question, how will you answer it? Have you got a real faith? Or is it
merely a political aspiration? Is it merely a larger kind of selfishness? Or is
it merely that you wish to be free to oppress others, as you are being
oppressed? Do you hold your political creed from a higher source? Is it God
that is born in you? Have you realised that you are merely the instruments of
God, that your bodies are not your own? You are merely instruments of God for
the work of the Almighty. Have you realised that? If you have realised that,
then you are truly Nationalists; then alone will you be able to restore this
great nation. In Bengal it has been realised
clearly by some, more clearly by others, but it has been realised and you on
this side of the country must also realise it. Then there will be a blessing on
our work, and this great nation will rise again and become once more what it
was in the days of its spiritual greatness. You are the instruments of God to
save the Light, to save the spirit of India from lasting obscuration and
abasement. Let me tell you what it is that has happened in Bengal.
You all know what Bengal used to be; you all know that "Bengali" used
to be a term of reproach among the nations; when people spoke of Bengal, with
what feelings did they speak of it? Was it with feelings of respect? Was it
with feelings of admiration? You know very well what people of other countries
used to say of the Bengali. You know well what you yourselves used to say of
the Bengali. Do you think that now? If anybody had told you that Bengal would
come forward as the saviour of India,
how many of you would have believed it? You would have said, "No. The
saviour of India cannot be
Bengal; it may be Maharashtra; it may be the Punjab; but it will not be Bengal; the idea is absurd." What has happened then?
What has caused this change? What has made the Bengali so different from his
old self? One thing has happened in Bengal, and it is this that Bengal is learning to believe. Bengal
was once drunk with the wine of European civilisation and with the purely
intellectual teaching that it received from the West. It began to see all
things, to judge all things through the imperfect instrumentality of the
intellect. When it was so, Bengal became
atheistic, it became a land of doubters and cynics. But still in Bengal there was an element of strength. Whatever the
Bengali believed, if he believed at all—many do not believe—but if he believed
at all, there was one thing about the Bengali, that he lived what he believed.
If he was a Brahmo, or if he was a social reformer, no matter whether what he
believed was true or not, but if he believed, he lived that belief. If he
believed that one thing was necessary for the salvation of the country, if he
believed that a thing was true and that it should be done, he did not stop to
think about it. He would not stop to consider from all intellectual standpoints
whether the truth in it was merely an ideal and to balance whether he would do
honestly what he believed or whether he could hold the belief intellectually
without living it, but without regard to consequences to himself, he went and
did what he believed. And if he was not a Brahmo, if he was an orthodox Hindu,
still if he really believed what the Hindu Shastras taught, he never hesitated
to drive even his dearest away, rather than aid by his weakness in corrupting
society. He never hesitated to enforce what he believed to the uttermost
without thinking of the consequences to himself. Well, that was the one saving
element in the Bengali nature. The Bengali has the faculty of belief. Belief is
not a merely intellectual process, belief is not a mere persuasion of the mind,
belief is something that is in our heart, and what you believe, you must do,
because belief is from God. It is to the heart that God speaks, it is in the
heart that God resides. This saved the Bengali. Because of this capacity of
belief, we were chosen as the people who were to save India, the people who
were to stand foremost, the people who must suffer for their belief, the people
who must meet everything in the faith that God was with them and that God is in
them. Such a people need not be politically strong, it need not be a people sound
in physique, it need not be a people of the highest intellectual standing. It
must be a people who can believe. In Bengal
there came a flood of religious truth. Certain men were born, men whom the
educated world would not have recognised if that belief, if that God within
them had not been there to open their eyes, men whose lives were very different
from what our education, our Western education, taught us to admire. One of
them, the man who had the greatest influence and has done the most to regenerate
Bengal, could not read and write a single
word. He was a man who had been what they call absolutely useless to the world.
But he had this one divine faculty in him, that he had more than faith and had
realised God. He was a man who lived what many would call the life of a madman,
a man without intellectual training, a man without any outward sign of culture
or civilisation, a man who lived on the alms of others, such a man as the
English-educated Indian would ordinarily talk of as one useless to society. He
will say, "This man is ignorant. What does he know? What can he teach me
who have received from the West all that it can teach?" But God knew what
he was doing. He sent that man to Bengal and set him in the temple of
Dakshineshwar in Calcutta, and from North and South and East and West, the
educated men, men who were the pride of the university, who had studied all
that Europe can teach, came to fall at the feet of this ascetic. The work of
salvation, the work of raising India
was begun. Consider the men who are really leading the present movement.
One thing I will ask you to observe and that is that
there are very few who have not been influenced by the touch of a Sadhu. If you
ask who influenced Babu Bepin Chandra Pal, it was a Sadhu. Among other men who
lead in Bengal is the man who started this
paper which is being prosecuted. You may not know his name here, but he is well
known throughout Bengal, and he had done much
to forward this movement; he is a man who has lived the life of a Sadhu, and
taken his inspiration and strength from that only source from which inspiration
and strength can come. I spoke to you the other day about National Education
and I spoke of a man who had given his life to that work, the man who really
organised the National College in Calcutta, and that man also is a disciple of
a Sannyasin, that man also, though he lives in the world, lives like a
Sannyasin, and if you take the young workers in Bengal, men that have come
forward to do the work of God, what will you find? What is their strength? What
is the strength which enables them to bear all the obstacles that come in their
way and to resist all the oppression that threatens them? Let me speak a word
to you about that. There is a certain section of thought in India which
regards Nationalism as "madness". The men who think like that are men
of great intellectual ability, men who have studied deeply, who have studied
economics, who have studied history, men who are entitled to respect, men from
whom you would naturally accept leading and guidance, and they say that
Nationalism will ruin the country. What is it that makes them talk like this?
Many of them are patriots, many of them are thoroughly sincere and honest, many
of them desire the good of the country. What is it that is wanting in them?
This is wanting. They are men who have lived in the pure intellect only and
they look at things purely from the intellectual standpoint. What does the
intellect think? What must it tell you if you consult the intellect merely?
Here is a work that you have undertaken, a work so gigantic, so stupendous, the
means for which are so poor, the resistance to which will be so strong, so
organised, so disciplined, so well equipped with all the weapons that science
can supply, with all the strength that human power and authority can give, and
what means have you with which to carry out this tremendous work of yours? If
you look at it intellectually, and these men look at it from the intellectual
standpoint, it is hopeless. Here are these men who are being prosecuted. How
are they going to resist? They cannot resist. They have to go straight to jail,
Well, these gentlemen argue and they are arguing 'straight from the intellect;
they ask, "How long will you be able to resist like that? How long will this
passive resistance work? All your leaders, all your strong men will be sent to
jail, you will be crushed and not only will you be crushed, the nation will be
completely crushed." If you argue from the intellect, this seems to be
true. I cannot tell you of any material weapon with which you will meet those
who are commissioned to resist your creed of Nationalism when you try to live
it. If you ask what material weapons we have got, I must tell you that material
weapons may help you no doubt but if you rely wholly upon material weapons then
what they say is perfectly true, that Nationalism is a madness. Of course,
there is another side to it. If you say that Nationalism cannot avail, then
again I ask the intellect of these people, what will avail? Intellectually speaking,
speaking from the Moderate's standpoint, what will avail? What do they rely
upon? They rely upon a foreign force in the country. If you do not rely upon
God, if you do not rely upon something mightier than material strength, then
you will have to depend solely upon what others can give. There are men who
think that what God cannot give for the salvation of India, the British Government will
give. What you cannot expect from God you are going to expect from the British
Government. Your expectation is vain. Their interests are not yours, their
interests are very different from yours, and they will do what their interests
tell them. You cannot expect anything else. What then does this intellectual
process lead you to? This intellectual process, if it is used honestly, if it
is followed to the very end, leads you to despair. It leads you to death. You
have nothing which can help you, because you have no material strength at
present which the adversary cannot crush and the adversary will certainly not be
so foolish as to help you, or to allow you to develop the necessary strength
unmolested. What then is the conclusion? The only conclusion is that there is
nothing to be done. The only conclusion is that this country is doomed. That is
the conclusion to which this intellectual process will lead you. I was speaking
at Poona on this subject, and I told them of my
experience in Bengal. When I went to Bengal three or four years before the Swadeshi movement
was born, to see what was the hope of revival, what was the political condition
of the people, and whether there was the possibility of a real movement, what I
found there was that the prevailing mood was apathy and despair. People had
believed that regeneration could only come from outside, that another nation
would take us by the hand and lift us up and that we have nothing to do for
ourselves. Now that belief has been thoroughly broken. They had come to realise
that help cannot come from this source, and that they had nothing to rely upon.
Their intellect could not tell them of any other source from which help could
come, and the result was that apathy and despair spread everywhere and most of
the workers who were really honest with themselves were saying that there was
no help for this nation and that we were doomed. Well, this state of despair
was the best thing that could have happened for Bengal, for it meant that the
intellect had done its best, that the intellect had done all that was possible
for it and that the work of the unaided intellect in Bengal
was finished. The intellect having nothing to offer but despair became
quiescent, and when the intellect ceased to work, the heart of Bengal was open and ready to receive the voice of God
whenever He should speak. When the message came at last, Bengal was ready to
receive it and she received it in a single moment, and in a single moment the
whole nation rose, the whole nation lifted itself out of delusions and out of
despair, and it was by this sudden rising, by this sudden awakening from dream
that Bengal found the way of salvation and declared to all India that eternal
life, immortality and not lasting degradation was her fate. Bengal
lived in that faith. She felt a mightier truth than any that earth can give,
because she held that faith from God and was able to live in that faith. Then
that happened which always happens when God brings other forces to fight
against the strength which he himself has inspired, because it is always
necessary for the divinely appointed strength to grow by suffering; without suffering,
without the lesson of selflessness, without the moral force of self-sacrifice,
God within us cannot grow. Sri Krishna cannot grow to manhood unless he is
called upon to work for others, unless the Asuric forces of the world are about
him and work against him and make him feel his strength. Therefore in Bengal
there came a time, after the first outbreak of triumphant hope, when all the
material forces that can be brought to bear against Nationalism were gradually
brought into play, and the question was asked of Bengal,
"Can you suffer? Can you survive?" The young men of Bengal
who had rushed forward in the frenzy of the moment, in the inspiration of the
new gospel they had received, rushed forward rejoicing in the new-found
strength and expecting to bear down all obstacles that came in their way, were
now called upon to suffer. They were called upon to bear the crown, not of
victory, but of martyrdom. They had to learn the real nature of their new
strength. It was not their own strength, but it was the force which was working
through them, and they had to learn to be the instruments of that force. What
is it that we have learned then? What is the need of the situation of which I
am to tell you today? It is not a political programme. I have spoken to you
about many things. I have written about many things, about Swadeshi, Boycott,
National Education, Arbitration and other subjects. But there was one truth
that I have always tried, and those who have worked with me have also tried, to
lay down as the foundation stone of all that we preached. It is not by any mere
political programme, not by National Education alone, not by Swadeshi alone,
not by Boycott alone, that this country can be saved. Swadeshi by itself may
merely lead to a little more material prosperity, and when it does, you might
lose sight of the real thing you sought to do in the glamour of wealth, in the
attraction of wealth and in the desire to keep it safe. In other subject
countries also, there was material development; under the Roman
Empire there was material development, there was industrial
progress, but industrial progress and material development did not bring life
to the Nation. When the hour of trial came, it was found that these nations
which had been developing industrially, which had been developing materially,
were not alive. No, they were dead and at a touch from outside they crumbled to
pieces. So, do not think that it is any particular programme or any particular
method which is the need of the situation. These are merely ways of working;
they are merely particular concrete lines upon which the spirit of God is
working in a Nation, but they are not in themselves the one thing needful. What
is the one thing needful? What is it that has helped the older men who have
gone to prison? What is it that has been their strength, that has enabled them
to stand against all temptations and against all dangers and obstacles? They
have had one and all of them consciously or unconsciously one over-mastering
idea, one idea which nothing can shake, and this was the idea that there is a
great Power at work to help India,
and that we are doing what it bids us. Often they do not understand what they
are doing. They do not always realise who guides or where he will guide them;
but they have this conviction within, not in the intellect but in the heart,
that the Power that is guiding them is invincible, that it is Almighty, that it
is immortal and irresistible and that it will do its work. They have nothing to
do. They have simply to obey that Power. They have simply to go where it leads
them. They have only to speak the words that it tells them to speak, and to do
the thing that it tells them to do. If the finger points them to prison, to the
prison they go. Whatever it bids them to endure, they gladly endure. They do
not know how that enduring will help, and the worldy-wise people may tell them
that it is impolitic, that by doing this they will be wasting the strength of
the country, they will be throwing the best workers away, they are not saving
up the forces of the country. But we know that the forces of the country are
other than outside forces. There is only one force, and for that force, I am
not necessary, you are not necessary, he is not necessary. Neither myself nor
another, nor Bepin Chandra Pal, nor all these workers who have gone to prison.
None of them is necessary. Let them be thrown as so much waste substance, the
country will not suffer. God is doing everything. We are not doing anything.
When he bids us suffer, we suffer because the suffering is necessary to give
others strength. When he throws us away, he does so because we are no longer
required. If things become worse, we shall have not only to go to jail, but
give up our lives, and if those who seem to stand in front or to be absolutely
indispensable are called upon to throw their bodies away, we shall then know
that that also is wanted, that this is a work God has asked us to do, and that
in the place of those who are thrown away, God will bring many more. He himself
is behind us. He himself is the worker and the work. He is immortal in the
hearts of his people. Faith then is what we have in Bengal.
Some of us may not have it consciously; some may not call it by that particular
name. As I said, we have developed intellectuality, we have developed it
notably and we are still much dominated by it. Many have come to this greater
belief through the longing to live for their countrymen, to suffer for their
countrymen, because God is not only here in me, he is within all of you, it is
God whom I love" it is God for whom I wish to suffer. In that way many
have come to do what God bade them do and he knows which way to lead a man.
When it is his will he will lead him aright.
Another thing which is only another name for faith is
selflessness. This movement in Bengal, this
movement of Nationalism is not guided by any self-interest, not at the heart of
it. Whatever there may be in 'some minds, it is not, at the heart of it, a
political self-interest that we are pursuing. It is a religion which we are
trying to live. It is a religion by which we are trying to realise God in the
nation, in our fellow-countrymen. We are trying to realise him in the three
hundred millions of our people. We are trying, some of us consciously, some of
us unconsciously, we are trying to live not for our own interests, but to work
and to die for others. When a young worker in Bengal
has to go to jail, when he is asked to suffer, he does not feel any pang in
that suffering, he does not fear suffering. He goes forward with joy. He says,
"The hour of my consecration has come, and I have to thank God now that
the time for laying myself on his altar has arrived and that I have been chosen
to suffer for the good of my countrymen. This is the hour of my greatest joy
and the fulfilment of my life." This is the second aspect of our religion,
and is the absolute denial of the idea of one's separate self, and the finding
of one's higher eternal Self in the three hundred millions of people in whom
God himself lives.
The third thing which is again another name for faith
and selflessness is courage. When you believe in God, when you believe that God
is guiding you, believe that God is doing all and that you are doing nothing,—what
is there to fear? How can you fear when it is your creed, when it is your
religion to, throw yourself away, to throw your money, your body, your life and
all that you have, away for others? What is it that you have to fear? There is
nothing to fear. Even when you are called before the tribunals of this world, you
can face them with courage. Because your very religion means that you have
courage. Because it is not you, it is something within you. What can all these
tribunals, what can all the powers of the world do to that which is within you,
that Immortal, that Unborn, and Undying One, whom the sword cannot pierce, whom
the fire cannot burn, and whom the water cannot drown? Him the jail cannot
confine and the gallows cannot end. What is there that you can fear when you
are conscious of him who is within you? Courage is then a necessity, courage is
natural and courage is inevitable. If you rely upon other forces, supposing
that you are a Nationalist in the European sense, meaning in a purely
materialistic sense, that is to say, if you want to replace the dominion of the
foreigner by the dominion of somebody else, it is a purely material change; it
is not a religion, it is not that you feel for the three hundred millions of
your countrymen, that you want to raise them up, that you want to make them all
free and happy. It is not that, but you have got some idea that your nation is
different from another nation and that these people are outsiders and that you
ought to be ruling in their place. What you want is not freedom for your
countrymen, but you want to replace the rule of others by yours. If you go in
that spirit, what will happen when a time of trial comes? Will you have
courage? Will you face it? You see that is merely an intellectual conviction
that you have, that is merely a reason which your outer mind suggests to you.
Well, when it comes to be put to the test, what will your mind say to you? What
will your intellect say to you? It will tell you, "It is all very well to
work for the country, but, in the meanwhile, I am going to die, or at least to
be given a great deal of trouble, and when the fruit is reaped, I shall not be
there to enjoy it. How can I bear all this suffering for a dream?" You
have this house of yours, you have this property, you have so many things which
will be attacked, and so you say, "That is not the way for me." If
you have not the divine strength of faith and unselfishness, you will not be
able to escape from other attachments, you will not like to bear affliction
simply for the sake of a change by which you will not profit. How can courage
come from such a source? But when you have a higher idea, when you have
realised that you have nothing, that you are nothing and that the three hundred
millions of people of this country are God in the Nation, something which
cannot be measured by so much land, or by so much money or by so many lives,
you will then realise that it is something immortal, that the idea for which
you are working is something immortal and that it is an immortal Power which is
working in you. All other attachments are nothing. Every other consideration
disappears from your mind, and, as I said, there is no need to cultivate
courage. You are led on by that Power. You are protected through life and death
by One who survives in the very hour of death, you feel your immortality in the
hour of your worst sufferings, you feel you are invincible.
Now I have told you that these three things are the
need of the present situation, because, as I said, the situation is this: you
have undertaken a work, you have committed yourselves to something which seems
to be materially impossible. You have undertaken a work which will rouse
against you the mightiest enemies whom the earth can bring forward. As in the
ancient times, when the Avatars came, there were also born the mightiest
Daityas and Asuras to face the Avatars, so it always is you may be sure that if
you embrace this religion of Nationalism, you will have to meet such tremendous
forces as no mere material power can resist. The hour of trial is not distant,
the hour of trial is already upon you. What will be the use of your
intellectual conviction? What will be the use of your outward enthusiasm? What
will be the use of your shouting "Bande Mataram"? What will be the
use of all the mere outward show when the hour of trial comes? Put yourselves
in the place of those people who are suffering in Bengal,
and think whether they have strength and whether if it comes to you, you have
the strength to meet it. With what strength will you meet it? How can you work
invincibly? How can you meet it and survive? Can you answer that question? I
have tried to show you that not by your material strength can you meet it. Have
you the other strength in you? Have you realised what Nationalism is? Have you
realised that it is a religion that you are embracing? If you have, then call
yourselves Nationalists; and when you have called yourselves Nationalists, then
try to live your Nationalism. Try to realise the strength within you, try to
bring it forward, so that everything you do may be not your own doing, but the
doing of that Truth within you. Try so that every hour that you live shall be
enlightened by that presence, that every thought of yours shall be inspired
from that one fountain of inspiration, that every faculty and quality in you
may be placed at the service of that immortal Power within you. Then you will
not say, as I have heard so many of you say, that people are so slow to take up
this idea, that people are so slow to work, that you have no fit leaders and
that all your great men tell you a different thing and that none of them is
ready to come forward to guide you in the path that is pointed out. You will
have no complaints to make against others, because then you will not need any
leader. The leader is within yourselves. If you can only find him and listen to
his voice, then you will not find that people will not listen to you, because
there will be a voice within the people which will make itself heard. That
voice and that strength is within you. If you feel it within yourselves, if you
live in its presence, if it has become yourselves, then you will find that one
word from you will awake an answering voice in others, that the creed which you
preach will spread and will be received by all and that it will not be very
long—in Bengal it has not been very long, it has not taken a century or fifty
years, it has only taken three years to change the whole nation, to give it a
new spirit and heart and to put it in front of all the Indian races.. From Bengal has come the example of Nationalism. Bengal which was
the least respected and the most looked-down on of all the Indian races for its
weakness has within these three years changed so much simply because the men
there who were called to receive God within themselves were able to receive
him, were able to bear, to suffer and live in that Power, and by living in that
Power they were able to give it out. And so in three years the whole race of
Bengal has been changed, and you are obliged, to ask in wonder, "What is
going on in Bengal?" You see a movement
which no obstacle can stop, you see a great development which no power can
resist, you see the birth of the Avatar in the Nation, and if you have received
God within you, if you have received that power within you, you will see that
God will change the rest of India in even a much shorter time, because the
Power has already gone forth, and is declaring itself" and when once
declared, it will continue its work with ever greater and greater rapidity. It
will continue its work with the matured force of Divinity until the whole world
sees and until the whole world understands him, until Sri Krishna, who has now
hid himself in Gokul, who is now among the poor and despised of the earth, who is
now among the cowherds of Brindaban, will declare the Godhead, and the
whole nation will rise, the whole people of this great country will rise,
'filled with divine power, filled with the inspiration of the Almighty, and no
power on earth shall resist it, and no danger or difficulty shall stop it in
its onward course. Because God is there, and it is his Mission, and he has something for us to do.
He has a work for this great and ancient nation. Therefore he has been born
again to do it, therefore he is revealing himself in you not that you may be
like other nations, not that you may rise merely by human strength to trample
underfoot the weaker peoples, but because something must come out from you
which is to save the whole world. That something is what the ancient Rishis
knew and revealed, and that is to be known and revealed again today, it has to
be revealed to the whole world and in order that he may reveal himself, you
must first realise him in yourselves, you must shape your lives, you must shape
the life of this great nation so that it may be fit to reveal him and then your
task will be done, and you will realise that what you are doing today is no
mere political uprising, no mere political change, but that you have been
called upon to do God's work.
This is the summary of a lecture delivered by Sri
Aurobindo in the Grand Square
of the NationalSchool,
Amraoti, Berar, on Wednesday 29 January
1908. The meeting commenced with the singing of Bande Mataram.
Srj Aurobindo said that he was exceedingly pleased to
know that the song had become so popular in all parts of India and that it was being so
repeatedly sung. He said that he would make this national anthem the subject of
his speech. The song, he said, was not only a national anthem to be looked on
as the European nations look upon their own, but one replete with mighty power,
being a sacred mantra, revealed to us by the author of Ananda Math, who
might be called an inspired Rishi. He described the manner in which the mantra
had been revealed to Bankim Chandra, probably by a Sannyasi under whose
teaching he was. He said that the mantra was not an invention, but a
revivification of the old mantra which had become extinct, so to speak,
by the treachery of one Navakishan. The mantra of Bankim Chandra was not
appreciated in his own day, and he predicted that there would come a time when
the whole of India
would resound with the singing of the song, and the word of the prophet was
miraculously fulfilled. The meaning of the song was not understood then because
there was no patriotism except such as consisted in making India the shadow of England and other countries which
dazzled the sight of the sons of this our Motherland with their glory and
opulence. The so-called patriots of that time might have been the well-wishers
of India
but not men who loved her. One who loved his mother never looked to her
defects, never disregarded her as an ignorant, superstitious, degraded and
decrepit woman. The speaker then unfolded the meaning of the song. As with the
individual, so with the nation, there were three bodies or koshas, the sthūla,
sūkshma, and kārna śarīras. In this way the speaker went on clearing
up the hidden meaning of the song. The manner in which he treated of love and
devotion was exceedingly touching and the audience sat before him like dumb
statues, not knowing where they were or whether they were listening to a
prophet revealing to them the higher mysteries of life. He then concluded with
a most pathetic appeal to true patriotism and exhorted the audience to love the
Motherland and sacrifice everything to bring about her salvation.
This passage below is very perceptive and outlines a common phenomenon observed in mass uprisings across the world. The intellectuals tend to stand aside and question every mass struggle and fear it may degenerate into chaos and violence (which usually happens). As a result, the intellectuals are rendered powerless while the unwashed masses rally around a slogan-shouting leader. The sharp exchanges between Mahatma Gandhi and Tagore epitomize this rift.
There is a certain section of thought in India which regards Nationalism as "madness". The men who think like that are men of great intellectual ability, men who have studied deeply, who have studied economics, who have studied history, men who are entitled to respect, men from whom you would naturally accept leading and guidance, and they say that Nationalism will ruin the country. What is it that makes them talk like this? Many of them are patriots, many of them are thoroughly sincere and honest, many of them desire the good of the country. What is it that is wanting in them? This is wanting. They are men who have lived in the pure intellect only and they look at things purely from the intellectual standpoint. What does the intellect think? What must it tell you if you consult the intellect merely? Here is a work that you have undertaken, a work so gigantic, so stupendous, the means for which are so poor, the resistance to which will be so strong, so organised, so disciplined, so well equipped with all the weapons that science can supply, with all the strength that human power and authority can give, and what means have you with which to carry out this tremendous work of yours? If you look at it intellectually, and these men look at it from the intellectual standpoint, it is hopeless.
One wonders how Sri Aurobindo would have modified this essay with the evolution of his consciousness. This is what he says in "On Himself" regarding a related essay
Q: Have you seen my review of "The Ideal of the Karmayogin”?
A: Yes, I have seen it, but I don't think it can be published in its present form as it prolongs the political Aurobindo of that time into the Sri Aurobindo of the present time. You even assert that I have "thoroughly" revised the book and these articles are an index of my latest views on the burning problems of the day and there has been no change in my views in 27 years (which would surely be proof of a rather unprogressive mind). How do you get all that? My spiritual consciousness and knowledge at that time was as nothing to what it is now — how would the change leave my view of politics and life unmodified altogether? There has been no such thorough revision; I have left the book as it is, because it would be useless to modify what was written so long ago — the same as with The Yoga and its Objects. Anyway the review would almost amount to a proclamation of my present political views — while on the contrary I have been careful to pronounce nothing — no views whatever on political questions for the last I don't know how many years. 21-4-1937
These are very interesting and important points, and it is good to read them alongside this brilliant essay on Nationalism by Sri Aurobindo.
However, underlying the actual details of the essay, there is a spirit of Nationalism that one can possibly enter into contact with --- I find the effect to be something similar to reading Swami Vivekananda's writings on related topics.
Nationalism is something that has come from God, come to those who have opened to it, the rare ones, and it is that Nationalism which must assert itself in every way of national life—that is what the speech emphasizes as a valid way, as a characteristic way of a certain collective life, expressive of a certain swabhāva and swadharma. Anything that comes in its way must be eliminated, without frail attachments of the frail human. Freedom is for that purpose; nationalism is to serve that purpose. The exhortation is: “You must remember that you are the instruments of God.” Each person has a personality and each nation has its nationalness, and it is that which must become instrumental in serving the purpose of God for which he is giving nationalism to the ready and the fit and the eager and the committed. Those who are prepared must live and progress in its greatness, and it is these ‘those’ who will carry the others along with them. That is possible only when something from our depths responds to the truth that is there behind it, proposing it and upholding it, the spirit of man making every effort to live and grow in the contents and dynamism of the spirit, be it in a country or in an organization or in an institution. In that sense the speech delivered 102 years ago still remains effective and dynamic, as does the Gita after thousands of years, dynamic and living when its message is understood. Let me quote here from Shelley’s Prometheus Unbound:
Prometheus
The nations thronged around, and cried aloud,
As with one voice, Truth, Liberty, and Love!
Suddenly fierce confusion fell from heaven
Among them; there was strife, deceit, and fear;
Tyrants rushed in, and did divide the spoil.
This was the shadow of the truth I saw.
The Earth
I felt thy torture, son, with such mixed joy
As pain and virtue give. To cheer thy state
I bid ascend those subtle and fair spirits,
Whose homes are the dim caves of human thought,
And who inhabit, as birds wing the wind,
Its world-surrounding ether; they behold
Beyond that twilight realm, as in a glass,
The future; may they speak comfort to thee!
There is a necessity to remove the shadow of the truth wherever it be seen, in a country, in an organization, in an institution. We have not lived if we have not committed ourselves to it.
This is from, as we know, the message he put out on 15th August, 1947
The third dream was a world-union forming the outer basis of a fairer, brighter and nobler life for all mankind. That unification of the human world is under way; there is an imperfect initiation organised but struggling against tremendous difficulties. But the momentum is there and it must inevitably increase and conquer. Here too India has begun to play a prominent part and, if she can develop that larger statesmanship which is not limited by the present facts and immediate possibilities but looks into the future and brings it nearer, her presence may make all the difference between a slow and timid and a bold and swift development. A catastrophe may intervene and interrupt or destroy what is being done, but even then the final result is sure. For unification is a necessity of Nature, an inevitable movement. Its necessity for the nations is also clear, for without it the freedom of the small nations may be at any moment in peril and the life even of the large and powerful nations insecure. The unification is therefore to the interests of all, and only human imbecility and stupid selfishness can prevent it; but these cannot stand for ever against the necessity of Nature and the Divine Will. But an outward basis is not enough; there must grow up an international spirit and outlook, international forms and institutions must appear, perhaps such developments as dual or multilateral citizenship, willed interchange or voluntary fusion of cultures. Nationalism will have fulfilled itself and lost its militancy and would no longer find these things incompatible with self-preservation and the integrality of its outlook. A new spirit of oneness will take hold of the human race. (On Himself, pp 405-406)
Nationalism will have fulfilled itself and lost its militancy and would no longer find these things incompatible with self-preservation and the integrality of its outlook. A new spirit of oneness will take hold of the human race.
I don't see any real contradiction between Sri Aurobindo's views expressed in this passage and the "What is Nationalism" speech. Of course, the contexts are completely different. In 1947, after the world war, he was naturally more concerned about humanity as a whole. His nationalism speech is definitely India-centric, but it seems to me similar in spirit to "Hymn to Durga" which was brought out in English in 1951, and which the Mother has endorsed with her blessings as a book for those who love India and wish to work for her (i.e. India).
I am not saying there are contradictions; rather what I suggest is that there may be evolution.
The speech above was made in 1909 after the vision in Alipore jail, where Krishna may have shown him that India would be free and that his (Sri Aurobindo's) future work was not to fight for freedom but to do Yoga. His speech emphasized the development of India as a nation because that was necessary in the context of Divine work (and the Mother continued that aspect later in 1951 as you point out.)
Regarding the speech of 1947, Sri Aurobindo was speaking from the Supramental consciousness and had gained a more comprehensive view of the past, present and future. Under the circumstances, he might have envisioned of a time (perhaps 500-1000 years from now) when nationalism would cease to exist as the kind of primal force it is today.
Nothing on Earth is permanent; all truths in manifestation are time-sensitive and are contingent on the state of humanity. An Avatar born during the age of cavemen would have exhorted them to build city-states (Athens, Harappa) and cultivate prayers and rituals to awaken their soul.
Another apposite example would be money-power. While Sri Aurobindo and the Mother spoke of the right use of money, they also spoke of a time where money might cease to exist.
>>The speech above was made in 1909 after the vision in Alipore jail…>>>
No, the speech was given on 19 January 1908 months before he was taken to Alipore Jail, on 5 May 1908. This was after the momentous Surat Congress in the last week of December 1907. From there Sri Aurobindo had gone to Baroda when for three days around 1 January 1908 he sat with Lele and got the first major Vedantic realization of Silent Mind with the Passive Brahman, of static oneness as the starting point of his spiritual realizations. Then, at the request of Tilak, Sri Aurobindo visited Poona and also Bombay. This particular speech delivered at Mahajan Wadi in Girgaun Bombay marks a milestone in the nationalist movement. At the back of it is the spiritual siddhi of the Silent Mind. Later, on his way back to Calcutta, Sri Aurobindo visited Nashik, Dhulia, Amaravati, and Nagpur in Maharashtra where he developed the same theme in his speeches. A few months after he was taken to Alipore Jail on 5 May 1908 he had the second major Vedantic experience of the all-pervasive Brahman as a dynamic reality. While such spiritual siddhis or realizations can influence thought and action of a person, there is also the aspect of his being open to the higher knowledge which comes directly from above and which can be even without his knowing it so, without waiting for the spiritual realizations—it can descend when there is that intrinsic receptivity. What the spiritual siddhis do is bring their force in the thought and action of the Yogi. These two aspects have to be seen from that point of view.
Under the circumstances, he might have envisioned of a time (perhaps 500-1000 years from now) when nationalism would cease to exist as the kind of primal force it is today.
Sure. In fact, very likely, as envisioned in his "ideal of human unity", but I don't think he conceived of a "monolithic world" without nations altogether. He had always said that each nation has its dharma, even its own psychic being.
Even within India, after independence, he seems to have conceived of a federal structure as outlined in his 1948 letter to the Andhra government. I can't recall the details off hand, but he talks of the importance of the "Andhra peoples" maintaining their linguistic and cultural identity.
And his speech on Nationalism clearly conceives of an ideal that is very remote from anything that exists today, and which perhaps existed at least for him during those times of the freedom struggle! Moreover, I think it is completely consistent with his later thought.
I am enjoying this discussion, and any further related points you can bring to the table will be appreciated! :-)
There is a thing called ‘national soul’, a ‘nation’s soul’, an aspect of group soul. Each has its own swabhāva, a characteristic feature for a total collective manifestation. Identifying oneself with a nation’s soul is identifying with a divine aspect in manifestation, and it has nothing to do with bigotry, narrow-mindedness, chauvinism, racism or whatever the superficial mind would like to call it. It is not NYT’s Thom Friedman kind of “flatness” that we should encourage. Commercial globality is not what the true globality of consciousness or universality offers us. In other words, the nobility of nationalism is something dignified, gracious, righteous, and of course deep, and it must be promoted if we have to have a group-identity in the collective working of the spirit, the spirit in its universality grouping itself for bringing out a certain quality of its in the play of things. In that sense there the aspect of something eternal in nationalism, there is something of sanātana in it.
Bringing up the ”national soul” idea in reference to nationalism might allow for a useful distinction. For an individual there is a soul within which is true individuality, remaining always in oneness and harmony with other souls. However the ordinary experience of individuality is ego – separated, ignorant, and obscure. The soul is deep within and not easy to realize.
So with a nation, there may be something like a soul representing the true uniqueness of the national spirit, remaining always in harmony and oneness with other national souls. However it seems similarly difficult to realize. The ordinary experience of nationalism often appears more akin to a national ego – separated, ignorant and obscure (good examples are Germany and Japan in the 1930's). History suggests one should be careful to make some such distinction between national soul and national ego when promoting nationalism.
An individual most likely passes through many different nationalities across birth and rebirth, so whatever durability there is to the national soul, any particular individual's connection to it may be quite fleeting. And as Sri Aurobindo notes in the evening talks auroman posted, there is no intelligible evolution or rebirth of collective beings, so the national “soul” analogy breaks down at some point.
At this stage let me just reproduce three passages from Sri Aurobindo’s writings bearing on this subject.
Social and Political Thought: Discovery of the Nation-Soul
The nation or society, like the individual, has a body, an organic life, a moral and aesthetic temperament, a developing mind and a soul behind all these signs and powers sake of which they exist. One may see even that, like the individual, it essentially is a soul rather than has one; it is a group soul that, once having attained to a separate distinctness, must become more and more self-conscious and find itself more and more fully as it develops its corporate action and mentality organic self-expressive 1ife. The parallel is just at every turn because it is more than a parallel; it is a real identity of nature. There is only this difference that the group-soul is much more complex because it has a great number of partly self-conscious mental individuals for the constituents of its physical being instead of an association of: merely vital subconscious cells. … When it does succeed in getting out of the stage of vaguely conscious self-formation, its first definite self-consciousness is objective much more than subjective. And so far as it is subjective, it is apt to be superficial or loose and vague. This objectiveness comes out very strongly in the ordinary emotional conception of the nation which centres round its geographical, its most outward and material aspect, the passion for the land in which we dwell, the land of our fathers, the land of our birth, country, patria, vaterland, janmabhiuni. When we realise that the land is only the shell of the body, though a very living shell indeed and potent in its influences on the nation, when we begin to feel that its more real body is the men and women who compose the nation-unit, a body ever changing, yet always the same like that of the individual man, we are on the way to a truly subjective communal consciousness. for then we have some chance of realising that even the physical being of the society is a subjective power, not a mere objective existence. Much more is it in its inner self a great corporate soul with all the possibilities and dangers of the soul-life.
Foundations of Indian Culture
… the spiritual and cultural is the only enduring unity and it is by a persistent mind and spirit much more than by an enduring physical body and outward organisation that the soul of a people survives. This is a truth the positive western mind may be unwilling to understand or concede, and yet its proofs are written across the whole story of the ages. The ancient nations, contemporaries of India, and many younger born than she are dead and only their monuments left behind them. Greece and Egypt exist only on the map and in name, for it is not the soul of Hellas or the deeper nation-soul that built Memphis which we now find at Athens or at Cairo. Rome imposed a political and a purely outward cultural unity on the Mediterranean peoples, but their living spiritual and cultural oneness she could not create, and therefore the East broke away from the West, Africa kept no impress of the Roman interlude, and even the western nations still called Latin could offer no living resistance to barbarian invaders and had to be reborn by the infusion of a foreign vitality to become modem Italy, Spain and France. But India still lives and keeps the continuity of her inner mind and soul and spirit with the India of the ages. Invasion and foreign rule, the Greek, the Parthian and the Hun, the robust vigour of Islam, the levelling steam-roller heaviness of the British occupation and the British system, the enormous pressure of the Occident have not been able to drive or crush the ancient soul out of the body her Vedic Rishis made for her. At every step, under every calamity and attack and domination, she has been able to resist and survive either with an active or a passive resistance.
But spiritual unity is a large and flexible thing and does not insist like the political and external on centralisation and uniformity; rather it lives diffused in the system and permits readily a great diversity and freedom of life.
…the underlying principle of the Indian politico-social system was a synthesis of communal autonomies, the autonomy of the village, of the town and capital city, of the caste, guild, family, kula, religious community, regional unit. The state or kingdom or confederated republic was a means of holding together and synthetising in a free and living organic system these autonomies. The imperial problem was to synthetise again these states, peoples, nations, effecting their unity but respecting their autonomy, into a larger free and living organism. A system had to be found that would maintain peace and oneness among its members, secure safety against external attack and totalise the free play and evolution, in its unity and diversity, in the uncoerced and active life of all its constituent communal and regional units, of the soul and body of Indian civilisation and culture, the functioning on a grand and total scale of the Dharma.
The Hour of God
India has seen always in man the individual a soul, a portion of the Divinity enwrapped in mind and body, a conscious manifestation in Nature of the universal self and spirit. … And similarly India has not understood by the nation or people an organised State or an armed and efficient community well prepared for the struggle of life and putting all at the service of the national ego, but a great communal soul and life that has appeared in the whole and has manifested a nature of its own and a law of that nature, a Swabhava and Swadharma, and embodied it in its intellectual, aesthetic, ethical, dynamic, social and political forms and culture. And equally then our cultural conception of humanity must be in accordance with her ancient vision of the universal manifesting in the human race, evolving through life and mind but with a high ultimate spiritual aim, increasing its experience and maintaining a needed diversity through the varied culture and life motives of its many peoples, searching for perfection through the development of the powers of the individual and his progress towards a diviner being and life, but feeling out too though more slowly after a similar perfectibility in the life of the race. … That is the principle on which we must build, that the central motive and the guiding ideal. It must be an education that for the individual will make its one central object the growth of the soul and its powers and possibilities, for the nation will keep first in view the preservation, strengthening and enrichment of the nation-soul and its Dharma and raise both into powers of the life and ascending mind and soul of humanity. And at no time will it lose sight of man's highest object, the awakening and development of his spiritual being.
And similarly India has not understood by the nation or people an organised State or an armed and efficient community well prepared for the struggle of life and putting all at the service of the national ego, but a great communal soul and life that has appeared in the whole and has manifested a nature of its own and a law of that nature, a Swabhava and Swadharma, and embodied it in its intellectual, aesthetic, ethical, dynamic, social and political forms and culture.
In the present times, perhaps, as Indians, we should all read these words and do some serious soul searching...
Another significant point is the spiritual map of India drawn by the Mother, and She used to sit with that as backdrop in the playground for many years. It must have been of great significance, at least for Her.
Apparently, she once told a disciple that "you have a lion on top", and by "you" I suppose She meant "you all Indians". If you see the spiritual map drawn by her, the top is shaped exactly like the head of a lion!
Let's indulge in a thought experiment. Imagine you were reborn 2000 years from now in a world that had consolidated itself into maybe 4-5 federations. You run into some Aurobindonians who are discussing outdated concepts like the nation-soul. Wouldn't you look at them the same way we look at the followers of a certain prophet (peace be upon him) whose thoughts are fixated on the defunct Caliphate?
The point I am making is that the Earth evolves over millions of years and the Shakti (Divine Mother) puts forth different forms in evolution and every Avatar who comes reveals this ever-changing truth for his time. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother's actions wrt India hold true at this point of time but would it hold true for eternity?
When we are talking of an individual, we’ve to make a distinction between his true inner being or the soul, and his instrumental personality comprising of the physical-vital-mental governed at present by the lower nature. Ditto for a nation. The former belongs to the mamaiamśa-aspect of the Gita. Sri Aurobindo is revealing that aspect and it has its own character, or nature, its own swabhāva and swadharama, its own line of growth and progress in the values of the spirit. Being a soul, it has the birth-right of immortality, unswayed by the buffeting winds of time; it is the eternal in the transient in an act of the manifestation in this creation which is indeed the entire meaning of its becoming.
When we are talking of an individual, we’ve to make a distinction between his true inner being or the soul, and his instrumental personality comprising of the physical-vital-mental governed at present by the lower nature. Ditto for a nation.
This is exactly what Sri Aurobindo writes in his longish commentary on the Isha Upanishad (to be precise, on page 107 of the version I have).
RYD, would you agree though that as a practical matter it’s far more important to focus on finding one’s own soul (which is definitely immortal), and perhaps in the collective dimension a soul-relationship with others on the same spiritual path, than it is seeking some nation-soul of the nation one happens to inhabit in the present birth?
Nationalism has its role to play in collective life, and when a nation is struggling for freedom from foreign domination it obviously assumes particular importance; hence Sri Aurobindo sought to inspire the purer form of it during his political days. But any suggestion that nationalism might be somehow central to Sri Aurobindo’s spiritual teaching and practice has a peculiar feel.
>>… hence Sri Aurobindo sought to inspire the purer form …>>
If collective life in a divine manifestation has a sense in the Aurobindonian formulation, then the appearance of the larger divine nuclei has a meaning and a purpose. When a spiritual leader like Sri Aurobindo comes, and Vivekananda had come just before him, then his objective is to promote that purpose and meaning. The rest is an aspect of the day-today pragmatics which should not be mixed up with the essentiality of divine centres for the collective or group organization. The Mother’s own vision of Auroville has a meaning and purpose of that kind, but the difficulties of Auroville or the Ashram should not blind us from that vision. Ditto for nations, ditto for yet larger aggregates. The question is: How do we lend ourselves to it if we take that as the thing which ought to happen?
"it’s far more important to focus on finding one’s own soul" - Kepler
This serves as a refreshing reminder of the very purpose of our existence, one that bears repetition and cannot be over-emphasized. The discovery of one's soul is no doubt an arduous task demanding a thorough winnowing.
I am reminded of something beautiful written by Nolini-da (perhaps a talk) which is very inspiring. I am reproducing a part of it..
"Mother said many many times: 'Whoever gets my touch, whoever has a second of true aspiration, true love for me, he is finished for this life, for all lives – he is bound to me. I have put a golden chain round his neck, his heart is bound eternally to me.'
It is a thing nobody can see, you yourselves don't see; but it is a fact, it is there. The golden chain is there within your heart. Wherever you go, you drag that chain, it is a lengthening chain. How far you may go, it is an elastic chain, it goes on lengthening, but never snaps. In hours of difficulty, in hours of doubt and confusion in your life, you have that within you to support you. If you are conscious of it, so much the better; if you are not conscious, believe that it is there. The Mother's love, Her Presence is there always.
Whenever, as I said, you feel discouraged, – naturally when you look at the world and its happenings, you feel very much distressed, disgusted, –but there is another reality behind, it is the Mother's Presence that redeems all that. In any mood of depression, dejection, difficulty, always know that it is there in you to support you, to bring you peace and strength, and it is never failing. So many times She has said:
'Everything else fails in this world, I will never fail you.'
Imagine you were reborn 2000 years from now in a world that had consolidated itself into maybe 4-5 federations. You run into some Aurobindonians who are discussing outdated concepts like the nation-soul.
How lucky we humans are! Eternal individual-souls, permanently hanging around to be reborn again and again, even after 2000 years. On the other hand, poor nation-souls have not a chance. They are mere concepts which exist only in our heads.
When Sri Aurobindo says the soul of India, is it just a concept for him and not a real being?
To complete your thought experiment: perhaps there will be a mirroroftomorrow website and I'll run into you and RYD again on it. Pleasant thought that there will be at least a few Aurobindonians after 2000 years, but I hope I won't run into the very evolved posthuman variety.
... or the soul of mirroroftomorrow animating the then-mirror-or-prism - but wait, if mot dissolves can its soul reanimate in a new formation of like spirit? :-)
Another way to look at this issue is that "nation" is a concept tied to a particular plane of human group organization. Even if nations federate away, the concept of group soul is still fundamental to human society and will appear in different forms. Today we have one Internet (network of networks, like federation of nations), but there are many "nations" in it - like, say, mirroroftomorrow. Similarly, we have a globalizing commerce environment, but many "nations" in it - like various firms, say. The opportunities for the soul of a group to hang around and reanimate a new form will multiply as humanity comes together in multiple ways.
When Sri Aurobindo says the soul of India, is it just a concept for him and not a real being?
That is not what I said. If you read the excerpt from the Evening Talks (see below), Sri Aurobindo says the collective entity can dissolve in time. The nation-soul does not exist eternally. Sri Aurobindo's writing in the Human Cycle from the 1920 era should be amended in light of his comments from the Evening Talks from 1938.
Disciple : Suppose the collective entity is dissolved from life?
Sri Aurobindo : When the physical form of the collectivity is dissolved here the collective being withdraws into the origin.
The correspondence between individual soul and the nation soul is not exact as RYD stated earlier.
When we are talking of an individual, we’ve to make a distinction between his true inner being or the soul, and his instrumental personality comprising of the physical-vital-mental governed at present by the lower nature. Ditto for a nation. (NO, Not true)
Sri Aurobindo's political and social thought would have to adapted if conditions of earth change.
Disciple: There is a being or a Spirit behind every place, I believe; for instance, is there no conscious being behind Pondicherry?
Sri Aurobindo: Do you mean nagar devatā, the presiding deity of the town?
Disciple: Something like that.
Sri Aurobindo: It is true that there are beings behind collective units, like the nations. There is what you may call the national devata or National Shakti.
Disciple: Is there such a being behind India?
Sri Aurobindo: Yes.
Disciple: Is it possible to know it, to come in contact with it?
Disciple: Is it possible to know the future of the nation by coming in contact with this being?
Sri Aurobindo: I think so. But I don't think the future is known that way.
Disciple: Does it shape the future of the nation?
Sri Aurobindo: It has a part to play in it. It controls some of the forces that act.
Disciple: Is this being something more than the aggregate consciousness?
Sri Aurobindo: It has the aggregate consciousness and it has an individualised consciousness of its own. It is not the determining deity or the adhisthāta devatā in the sense that it entirely shapes the future, but it, in a way, represents the racial – the national-soul.
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One more excerpt
Disciple : Some disciples here believe that there is a collective Karma for which either the group, the society or the nation has to bear the consequences like the individual.
Sri Aurobindo : The collective being is non-evolutionary. It is hard to believe in the reincarnation of races.
Disciple : Somebody seems to have said that the Romans are born as Americans.
Sri Aurobindo : Very queer Romans! You may say in some sense that the English are the ancient Carthaginians! Or one may even hazard that the French are the Greeks reborn. But it won't carry us very far.
You can't take for granted that one individual is always born in the same race or nation in which he is born now. So how can the nation soul or race soul reincarnate?
Disciple : Have the nations a soul each?
Sri Aurobindo : You can speak of it as collective or nations being or entity. It is not in evolution. It is not subject to the law of Karma.
Disciple : Can it be said that the law governing it is suprarational?
Sri Aurobindo : Yes, each collective being is a projection of the Cosmic Spirit for a particular purpose. You can speak of it as a particular Shakti.
Disciple : How does the collective being or Shakti work?
Sri Aurobindo : It identifies itself with a particular form – here of a group of individual. There is a mutual action : it acts on the individual and the individual acts on it by manifesting it.
Disciple : Suppose the collective entity is dissolved from life?
Sri Aurobindo : When the physical form of the collectivity is dissolved here the collective being withdraws into the origin.
Disciple : Can a collective being, after such a dissolution take another form – a group – for manifesting itself?
thanks Auroman for pasting the above Q&A of Sri Aurobindo.
What you point is certainly true. National soul has nothing to do with the demographics of the nation though there may be many visible and useful divine
inspiring structures on the physical plane of the nation. The soul of the nation is the soul of the people living in the nation. When thecollective souls of the people has evolved and a certain critical mass of the
people of the nation as a collectivity conscious of their souls and shakti moving them find the purpose of their nation and of the divine shakti acting for a certain manifestation, then the soul of the nation awakens.
Just the discussion goes, the being behind the collective individuals goes to the origin as the physical frame of the individuals dissolves from the national geographics. It is the collective soul quality and the critical mass of conscious individuals that determine the national soul. There is a shakti or a aspect of the Mother's shakti behind also helping the individuals or groups of souls in the nation.
But without the critical mass of conscious souls that particular aspect of of the shakti cannot materialize on earth. Basically the shakti needs participants or groups of individuals who are consious of their souls and god shakti behind their physical, mental and vital sheaths.
Sri Aurobindo emphasizes that behind the nationalistic movement is the sacrifice, purity and austerity of many yogis and sadhaks. When we know God we have done a great favor for our nation. We have known our soul's purpose. We become the vessel of the shakti behind our nation.
There are many aspects of the Mother. Many ways of shakti can manifest according to the nature of the souls of individuals in a demographic area. There are many varieties of shaktis of the Mother. So each group of souls can manifest one aspect of her.
I do not think India,pakistan or other geopraphical areas makes any difference to the manifesting shakti.
The manifesting shakti needs souls of evolved individuals to manifest its qualities and make those qualities the way of life of the group..i.e the culture of the group.
As kepler said, one needs to be very careful about nationalistic ego and the true shakti behind it. All the politics, the media hype, huge money flowing into india and none talks about God or the Mothers
shakti. All that is national ego.
We need to take the powers from the darkness and use it for the Mother's purpose, for the emergence of the true shakti behind the nation. We need to be warriors.
I found another dialogue on this topic in the Evening talks. Caution: it ends with a joke.
Disciple : Has the collective personality of India been always there ?
Sri Aurobindo : Yes, as far as history goes. I don't know what must have been in the Sumerian period.
Disciple : What is the nature of this collective, or if I may say so, Super-personality ?
Sri Aurobindo : You have to look to the characteristics of the Indian people to understand that super-personality ) must be something that corresponds to them. When you are on the other side of mind you can look at it from beyond and see how this works below here ; but so long as we are here – in the mind – we have to proceed from the law of our present nature.
Disciple : I wanted to ask whether the nation that would emerge in India today would have the same characteristics as the nations in Europe or would it have something different ?
Sri Aurobindo : It can't be the same. Evidently it would be something more.
Disciple : I had a discussion with X ; he argued that we had no such national consciousness as in Europe and I maintained that we had something more,
Sri Aurobindo : Perhaps Europe has no such well-defined collective personality as India has. In Europe you have several clearly defined national personalities. For instance, England has a definite national personality, so also has France. They are trying to create some sort of collective personality. They have not yet succeeded in giving form to it.
While in India it is quite different. It is a well-defined collective personality which is already there and all these various personalities and types of the Indian nation are its formations, so to say. It is that which expresses itself in these.
Disciple : The differences between different parts of India are variations of the same collective personality ?
Sri Aurobindo : It is the same as with the Welsh, the Scottish and the English, or the Bavarian and the Prussian, in the same nationality. If there were not this clear collective personality it would have been difficult to create a political nation in India.
But take the case of Asia. There is an attempt at the formation of a collective Asiatic personality. But if anyone made just now an effort to unite them under a political unity the result would be a disaster, a ghastly failure.
Disciple : Is it not a fact that the national consciousness evolves in face of common danger, and so there is an idea that Asia would unite when it has to fight against Europe, and humanity would unite when mankind will have to fight against the people of another planet! (Laughter).
Sri Aurobindo : That is a vital way of creating unity. Even in Europe, though there is no collective personality, yet there is a common mentality, a common culture and a common attitude against Asiatics and Africans.
Disciple : Plato says that each form has its own "Idea" that is, behind the form is a fixed Idea of the type a and it is that which persists while it is the individual that varies. The genus remains the same on the plane of Idea ?
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Having no threat to India, we have become complacent. We feel by increasing our industries and wealth alone we can find our national character. We have felt out millions of Indians from education and national and character building. There are no resources allotted for education. We have also stopped asking the right questions. The youth has lost touch with the yogic purity and austerity necessary for national building. What kind of nation are we building now? Asuric and egoistic, not the divine. We kill our own people, deprive them of basic necessities. Kill the uprising of the poor with massive state machinery. We let the rich exploit national common resources. Spiritual education is kicked to the curb. National leaders who were yogis, we do not know them and their sacrifice.
We are happy we found a job in a multinational corporation. That is emancipation for us. Who cares of the nation, the Mother? Hence we suffer.
Bill Gates has to come to India and donate some money in Utter pradesh. Where is all our tax money going? Can't we even give some basic necessities to our citizens and give them proper education? Do we love our country?
India exists in an interim phase right now as it absorbs the Western influence and there will understandably be some chaos. You can't grow without growing pains. One more passage from the Evening Talks to reflect on!
Disciple : What are the possibilities of industrialism in India ?
Sri Aurobindo : About that you can say as much as I. that do you mean by industrialism ?
Disciple : I mean the system of large-scale production through big machines. ,
Sri Aurobindo : Big machines are bound to come. The poverty of the people can only be removed by large-scale production.
Disciple : The real question is : how to prevent life from being mechanised ?
Sri Aurobindo : That is a different question. But big machinery does not necessarily imply all the evils of industrialism.
Disciple : Even in cottage-industries men are mechanized to a certain extent.
Disciple : Yes, but cottage-industries leave the social life intact.
Sri Aurobindo : Why should the present form of social life remain intact ? New forms of social organisation will rise with the advent of large-scale production. It is the tendency of Indians towards poverty which is really responsible for their cry against machinery.
Disciple : The problem is : how to introduce big machinery and yet avoid all the evils arising out of it ?
Sri Aurobindo : The evils are bound to disappear. The different ideas and schemes suggested in Europe show that people are trying to correct the defects. Unless one enters into industrialism how can the evils be overcome ?
Disciple : Will India have to pass through all the evils of industrialism ?
Sri Aurobindo : But why should India wait till other countries solve the problem, so that it may imitate them afterwards ?
Disciple : How will India avoid the evils ?
Sri Aurobindo : Let her first acquire wealth. Without wealth they cannot expect to make any progress.
Interesting conversation. Sri Aurobindo is very practical, that is another reason I love him.
Sri Aurobindo: without wealth they cannot expect to make any progress.
Since wealth is coming to India, other issues of distribution of wealth and tax system has to be taken care of. Unfortunately I do not know what the problem is. We find it so hard to build some good schools and provide basic necessities for the poor.
One reason why United states is an advanced country is because of the social security and health
provisions given to the people, which was first introduced during the Roosevelt's time. Almost a century back New deal provisions decreased the gap between the poor and the rich. The country prospered.
Now is the time for India to bring similar minimum
health and education facilities for its citizens. We need a New deal for Indians. Higher taxes on the rich and some kind of welfare state provisions for the poor. Until then there is no hope. We have to some how fix the tax collection system in India. There is too much tax evasion. These things are very critical to the proper functioning of the society.
Are any of the political parties talking about welfare state and universal health facilities for everyone.
I guess all Prime ministers must have promised the deal but Indians are so accustomed to poverty that they do not even expect that from the government.
I hope that some educated economists or advisers to government get this done just like Mr. Obama did in the U.s . It all comes to political will.
things are changing in india for the good. Are we debating on the right issues? Are we debating on health care as we should? Probably thousands of children are dying now because of poor health care.
There is no debate on it either in the news papers other discussion panels.
We talk over and over about pakistan etc. What about our own people dying every day from disease.
Statistically the people who die in a war or in recent shootings is such a minuscule and the people dying probably in millions from no health facilities.
Our priorities, debates and discussions are misplaced. We as people should demand for these minimum facilities.
You sound almost like Arundhati Roy with your unending entreaties on behalf of the poor :-)
One cannot compare America and India and expect a New Deal to work quickly even if legislated. America in the 1930s had a population of about 120 million, a vast land mass with plenty of resources, and a practical people who had ability to get things done. In contrast, India in 2010 has a population of about one billion, not enough land mass and resources as well as people who are rising out of Tamas.
The media is doing its part exposing tax evasion and corruption and the government works at its own pace. The problems are undoubtedly large in scale so we just have to wait and watch. Your heart may bleed for the poor but remember that there have been rich and poor people throughout history. Its just the way life evolves across the spectrum.
I can't jump into politics or journalism at this moment but you can do so if you think that might work. Do you have any solutions to these well-known problems ? Would you like to write a full-length article for the Mirror on this topic ? Please consider.
Yes, but spirituality does not exclude these topics as you know. The problems and human suffering in India like starvation and child mal nourishment are things we should be worried about. It is the worst in the whole world. Why should we be in the bottom maybe a little up on the ladder would be better. That is my point.
We have some billionaires in India. Look at Bill Gates or Buffet, they have a commitment for the society. Why is there not such a thing in India? I am pondering on that.
Poverty always exists to some extent but maybe we need not be the worst in the whole world, in fact worse than sub sahara regions.
If India is our Mother, then we have to think about it. How can we be so apathetic?
I am educating myself and also working on some plans to involve in social work if my financial maneuvers turn out positive.
But all things aside, I fear that we do not have debate and study the advanced countries enough. How they have over come similar problems in the past. For example, the New deal provisions in United states when unemployment was high and country poor. Yes, what you mention and the hurdles for India are greater but at least we need to have a vision and how to over come the problems. That is my point.
I have not seen any of the new papers talk about universal health care even when there is a hot debate going on in the united states in the recent months. Why?
Do we think it is impossible or do we not deserve it?
I am doing some self-education in socio-economic problems in India. I am trying to understand further so that I use my money in a right way in the future. Definitely education is the priority. I know how hard it is to find a good education in India. I have grown up on the streets just like many millions of youth without proper resources for study.
I was also thinking of having some well connected libraries so that people have access to good books. There are thousands of books out there but there are some essential must read books on different subjects. I want to popularize those books in these libraries. So that youth can understand the subject even without a good teachers. I myself am not good in economics but am educating myself. But I see that economic is a subject feared and set back in our educational system.
I have become a fan of Paul Krugman and am reading his text book and other books. His blog on New york times is a revelation. I want all that good happen to India so that the youth does not have to go through what I have gone through to educate myself. I think I am lucky in some ways that I came from not so poor families.
Anyway, human resources in India is wasted. I will definately contribute to the Mirror as I learn more and am able to correlate to India and what has to be done at this moment. We have to keep in touch with the ground realities to change something otherwise it is all building castles in the air.
I do not mean literally streets. I come from a upper middle class family.
Bah, humbug ! I don't feel pity for you anymore ,-)
Your pet peeve is that we must demonstrate more compassion and have more debate on the condition of poor, correct? Debating on the Mirror is not going to change the workings in New Delhi (sorry, RYD). You should look for a bully pulpit from which you can drive home your message.
Btw, what did you mean when you said "We kill our own people, deprive them of basic necessities. Kill the uprising of the poor with massive state machinery. We let the rich exploit national common resources"? You sounded exactly like how Arundhati Roy. Were you referring to the Maoist uprising? What do you propose should be done with the tribals who won't allow mountains to be explored for coal because there are spirits in them? Surely, there are spirits in rivers as well. How should we balance nature with economic needs?
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Do you have some past life vengeance on Arundathi Roy? :-)
She might be exaggerating sometimes but the facts she states are true.
If we want India to be the leader in the future, then we have to talk about what is inflicting our Mother. Are you saying that we should not debate about this topic or even
exchange views and maybe correct ourselves if there is ignorance? May be for some this topic does not belong to hard core spirituality.
Did we already forget that Sri Aurobindo sought yoga initially for the deliverance of India from foreign powers? Though is views changed later he was always worried about India and its future conditions and its place in the world.
We need not always catch a big fish in New Delhi. We can contribute in whatever way to the community in which we live. It could be a library or something else. Of course major movement and proper utilization of people's can be done only with political will. Should I get into politics, that is an altogether different question to ask. That depends on present and future priorities.
Even without getting into politics there are many way one can help the community. Helping the community is not out of compassion only or as a moral duty but I see it as a spiritual duty.
Talking about Maoists, things have gotten out of hand. Would you like someone to come to your house and dig it because there is a mine underneath and sent to a place where there is absolutely nothing and without compensation or a promise of compensation in the far future? Where will all these tribals go who are dependent on natural resources?
I think Arundathi roy makes some good points.
These companies are using common resources that belong to all the citizens of the country. They do not even pay proper taxes. There are millions of people displaced because of dam constructions. The state or the companies are responsible for housing them. But it never happens. Now we do not like people like Arundathi roy who try to help illiterate people who have lost hope and fight the state machinery. How dare she questions the motivations of rich corporates and the judges in our court? We want to read about their activities and as aloof as possible and may be comment on their ignorance.
These people who are displaced become beggars on the streets in the cities that people like you and me shun.
Do you want Mother India to be like that?
There should be a some justice. This is sheer apathy in our people.
The state and the corporates are responsible for providing all facilities for the displaced people. Now that this has never happened and the money that was supposed to be used for this purpose squandered, these tribal people have lost hope new government displacement schemes. Will you not be if you are one of them? I would be definitely. Unless they are given housing and trained different skills, how can the government let them loose? Irresponsible is the correct word.
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Do you have some past life vengeance on Arundathi Roy? :-)
She exaggerates ("It's always India's fault. Nothing India does is right") and secondly, she sees things from only one side (..poor..). Defending the borders and economic improvement are also important.
Are you saying that we should not debate about this topic
All I said was that it will not change New Delhi. We can talk as much as we want. I also suggested you write an article.
Would you like someone to come to your house and dig it because there is a mine underneath and sent to a place where there is absolutely nothing and without compensation or a promise of compensation in the far future?
I have no idea how to solve the problem so I just wanted to see if you had a solution. The businessmen will not commit capital without subsidies or ROI and the govt does not have the money to do everything. Its just the nature of the game. We are evolving in a bootstrapping manner and we have to accept some imperfections.
I’m glad this suggestion has been repeated. I endorse it, and I will post it on the MoT. It will perhaps be worthwhile to do that instead of engaging in an infructuous exchange of comments which could be done in private e-mails. A professional presentation of the issues will be rewarding in several respects, and I’ll urge Rakesh to do it, something which can stand the test of enduring time.
~ RYD
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I request Auroman not to take my comments personally. I am not a great article writer but I shall try once I finish my queries about India's tax distribution on different projects. I am also searching for some economists who blog on India.
I find Lok satta party having a better vision and plan than any other. Check it out.
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Rakesh, check out http://www.teachforindia.org/. Its modelled after an American NGO called Teach For America which trains young graduates and inserts them back into poor schools as teachers. Its the kind of work you would uphold and admire.
In the context of the present discussion, let me post here just a few stanzas from Hymn to Durga by Sri Aurobindo.
Mother Durga! From age to age, in life after life, we come down into the human body, do thy work and return to the Home of Delight. Now too we are born, dedicated to thy work. Listen, O Mother, descend upon earth, come to our help.
Mother Durga! Giver of force and love and knowledge, terrible art thou in thy own self of might, Mother beautiful and fierce. In the battle of life, in India’s battle, we are warriors commissioned by thee; Mother, give to our heart and mind a titan’s strength, a titan’s energy, to our soul and intelligence a god’s character and knowledge.
Mother Durga! India lies now in selfishness and fearfulness and littleness. Make us great, make our efforts great, our hearts vast, make us true to our resolve. May we no longer desire the small, void of energy, given to laziness, stricken with fear.
Mother Durga! Enter our bodies in thy yogic strength. We shall become thy instruments, thy sword slaying all evil, thy lamp dispelling all ignorance. Fulfil this yearning of thy young children, O Mother. Be the master and drive the instrument, wield thy sword and slay the evil, hold up the lamp and spread the light of knowledge. Make thyself manifest.
Come, Revealer of the hero-path. We shall no longer cast thee away. May our entire life become a ceaseless worship of the Mother, all our acts a continuous service to the Mother, full of love, full of energy. This is our prayer, O Mother, descend upon earth, make thyself manifest in this land of India.
As late as 4 April 1950 Sri Aurobindo writes to Dilip Kumar Roy the following:
You have expressed in one of your letters your sense of the present darkness in the world round us and this must have been one of the things that contributed to your being so badly upset and unable immediately to repel the attack. For myself, the dark conditions do not discourage me or convince me of the vanity of my will to "help the world", for I knew they had to come; they were there in the world-nature and had to rise up so that they might be exhausted or expelled and a better world freed from them might be there. After all, something has been done in the outer field and that may help or prepare for getting something done in the inner field also. For instance, India is free and her freedom was necessary if the Divine Work was to be done. The difficulties that surround her now and may increase for a time, especially with regard to the Pakistan imbroglio, were also things that had to come and to be cleared out.... Here too there is sure to be a full clearance, though unfortunately, a considerable amount of human suffering in the process is inevitable. Afterwards the work for the Divine will become more possible and it may well be that the dream, if it is a dream, of leading the world towards the spiritual light, may even become a reality. So I am not disposed even now, in these dark conditions, to consider my will to help the world as condemned to failure.
It is a pity that such statements are totally misunderstood by the author of the repulsive The Lives of Sri Aurobindo when he makes a preposterous attempt to discredit Sri Aurobindo by saying this: “It is impossible to say anything certain about the success or failure” of Sri Aurobindo’s endeavor. Quoting the Record of Yoga mostly maintained during the early period before 1920, and the Overmind realization in the physical in 1926, also letters written prior to 1938, the author has the audacity to say that Sri Aurobindo’s success always seemed to elude him if not delude him, that it always was in the beyond, sometime in the far future. He questions if Sri Aurobindo succeeded in bringing down a new consciousness into the earth-consciousness. But this is plain stupid when one has no understanding of the occult-yogic aspects of the entire issue, aspects which have no concern for a historian as he claims himself to be one. There has to be some insight into them, preferably some experience or realization of them, before making any comment of the kind; in the absence of such an insight there has to be at least some openness to what the Mother had revealed about such matters. This is absent which only makes the Lives yogically hollow and hence of no value while approaching the great Master-Yogi that Sri Aurobindo was. The spirit of nationalism and the soul of a country ought to be viewed in terms of what he has done in terms of the spirituality shaping and moulding them, spirituality leading towards manifestation of the powers of the spirit in the life of an individual and of the collective.
Let us read a few stanzas from Sri Aurobindo’s Bhavani Bharati, a Sanskrit composition written during his political days:I am the mother, O child, of the Bharatas, the eternal people beloved of the gods, whom neither hostile Fate nor Time nor Death has power to destroy.
Their strength purified by their continence, rendered noble by self knowledge and severe austerities, resplendent like a thousand suns they shone on a prosperous earth.
Heroic and bold, they would brook no hint of defiance from their foes. Worshipping the Mother with the sacrifice of her enemies, at battle's end they stood radiant, their limbs anointed with blood.
Offer sacrifice to me; give, for I am thirsty. Seeing me, know and adore the original Power, ranging here as Kali who roars aloud and hungers to enjoy the heads and bodies of mighty rulers.
Not by torrents of blood from hundreds and thousands and tens of thousands of goats am I satisfied. Break open your hearts and offer that blood to me, for so do they worship the unborn and dreadful Goddess.
Wheresoever are great heroes and leaders engaged in continual self-sacrifice for the good of their race, towards those nations does Kali grow gracious, nourished with blood, and they crush their enemies.Earth and sea shook with the awful violence of her words and the heavens thundered back. The terror of her angry looks afflicted the creation like a deluge of fire.
Crowded with glorious faces of the future, 1 beheld now the creator Brahma in the shape of a cloud whence looked forth a thousand eyes that foresaw the Mother's deliverance from fear.
Enraptured, the gods in the luminous realms sang her praises; the birds in the mid-region sang sweetly of her, and men prostrating themselves on the earth sang of her as she entered the world dispelling its anguish. Salutation to thee, O Goddess omnipotent! To thee I bow who art terrible and mighty and compassionate. Thou alone preservest these peoples. Salutation to the Forceful One, the primeval Goddess!
Who is there who can describe thy might, O Goddess impetuous in thy ways? With one delicate hand thou settest whirling or arrestest in its motion the universe with all its stars and suns, O infinite in energy.
When, wielding the trident, thou dancest, O Chandi, on the gruesome battlefield noisy with jackals, the vast multitudes of stars seem to tremble in the firmament at the touch of thy weapon.
Thy heart melting with pity for the weeping of men, thou smitest the heads of the oppressors of the people. Ravenous Death, the eater of the world, is thy servant who rides on the prongs of thy trident.
Thou art the supreme Power awakening in millions of impassioned men. Incarnating thyself, thou preservest this noble people when it is fallen into distress. From age to age thou fightest, O Mother of the Aryans.
Today again I behold thy dazzling white form on the mountains of the north; effulgent thy light arises, O gracious one, illumining the worlds with beauty.
Thou rangest here, noble goddess, with thy lovely limbs of' radiance mounted on a cow drunk with the zest of battle, and all around thee the Titan hosts tumble like lofty peaks uprooted.
Bright of hue and with round black horns, she romps about like a swiftmoving mass of snow: it is the Aryan land of India, dear to the gods, who tramples her enemies in this shape of a cow.
Salutation to thee, O Goddess vast in thy power, to thee of terrible vows who carriest us through our difficult labour. Thou reignest as Bharati over the Bharatas; as the supreme Goddess thou rulest all this universe of animate and inanimate things.
Thou art the supreme Goddess, thou the Mother of creatures; who else has power? Mastery, supremacy and blameless lustre are gifts from thee, O opulent one, thou who givest these smitest also when thou art angered.
Salutation, salutation, O noble goddess with thy large eyes of sweetness! This thy vehicle with its lovely hue of snow raises thy flag, as it were, in the black, glossy tip of its uplifted tail.
Salutation, salutation, O Goddess! Forcibly loosened by the exertion of battle, the array of thy unbraided tresses flying about, long and wavy, appears to float like a cloud in the sky.
When thy eyes flash with anger, O white-faced goddess, thou art like a streak of lightning fallen to earth; like lightning amid the thunderclouds thv dreadful laughter plays in the corners of thy eyes.
This white neck of thine is bent slightly to look at thy fallen and lifeless foemen. The white legs of Bhavani, from the feet to the beautiful knees, gleam like pillars of snow.
Fluttering in the breeze, thy bright and airy robe is a luminous cloud from whose midst thy radiant limbs shine forth like moonlight.
Thou art ancient Goddess—before Shiva thou wert—yet thou wearest this form of a maiden. Salutation to thee, O beginningless Mother! Be gracious, O terrible One. to those who prostrate themselves before thee.
Pointing to a land dark with trees visible in the vast spaces between the mountains, thy hand is extended, O compassionate one, O Rudrani, granting freedom from fear to the peoples.
Gracious is thy noble form white as snow, gracious the exalted countenance of Bhavani; I bow to the Mighty One robed in white, radiant with the bright beauty of youth, her eyes moist with compassion.
Where now is that terrible figure, garlanded with the bones of men and girdled with skulls, naked and fierce, dreadful with her gaping mouth, by whose cries I was suddenly roused?
In the river of blood which flows yonder laughs the shadow of the beautiful One, brandishing a sword, thundering, naked and hideous: I bow to Kali!
Thou indeed art Kali and utterly ruthless thou art; thou art Annapurna, the merciful and gracious. I bow to thee as the Violent One, O ender of the worlds; I bow to thee, O Radha, in thy ecstasy of love.
Who can support in himself thy plenitude of infinite Power in which all thy forms are manifest, O Goddess omnipotent? Thou art this blazing might and thou art the strength of the strong; thou art also the gentlest of the gentle.
Two-armed in thy gracious aspect I bow to thee, and again with trident uplifted bringing deliverance from fear; to thee I bow, O Mother, O radiant Savitri, O three-eyed one, thy white-limbed, white-robed loveliness mounted on a bull.
Ten-armed with all thy ten weapons thou protectest the Aryans, O Mother unattainable in the ten directions; as the womb of' the world thou sitst with a thousand arms embracing thy children, unthinkable in thy energy.
Illumining with her rays the impenetrable depths of the forests, her form like a mountain of fire, terrible and sublime, I see the gracious Goddess standing, sword in hand, at the gates of the cities of the Aryan country.
The mighty Mother of creatures has vanquished the Age of Strife. Once again the movements of freedom are abroad; I observe them following the paths of the ancient scriptures.
In East and West I hear the cry and stir of the whole world hastening with praise on its tongue to this country, the ancient Mother of the Vedas.
Praising the gracious and awe-inspiring Mother as the source of the true Law, the fulfiller of mighty vows, they revere as a place of pilgrimage this land dear to the Goddess beginningless in her power.
O infinite in thy forms, thou art contentment, compassion, patience and indomitable heroism, faith and endurance and knowledge of every kind. Be gracious, noble goddess; dwell long in the hearts of the Indian people!
An attempt is made by a self-styled historian to compare Gandhi’s and Sri Aurobindo’s approaches adapted by them in India’s Struggle for Independence. If one was open to the use of strong revolutionary methods, the other sought all virtue in non-violence alone. He says that Sri Aurobindo was associated with a group that adapted “terrorist methods”. (Violent and Non-violent Modes of Resistance in India’s Freedom Movement) Let us read the relevant part of a letter Sri Aurobindo wrote to Motilal Roy, dated 29 August 1914:
Dear M.
We gain nothing by preaching an unconditional loyalty to the Government, such as is the fashion nowadays, or doing anything which even in appearance strengthens the disposition towards an abject and unmanly tone in politics. Gandhi's loyalism is not a pattern for India which is not South Africa, and even Gandhi's loyalism is corrected by passive resistance. An abject tone of servility in politics is not "diplomacy" and is not good politics. It does not deceive or disarm the opponent; it does encourage nervelessness, fear and a cringing cunning in the subject people. What Gandhi has been attempting in South Africa is to secure for Indians the position of kindly treated serfs, - as a stepping-stone to something better. Loyalty and Ambulance Corps mean the same thing in India. But the conditions of India are not those of South Africa; our position is different and our aim is different, not to secure a few privileges, but to create a nation of men fit for independence and able to secure and keep it. … Since the last year new forces have come into the world and are now strong enough to act, which are likely to alter the whole face of the world. The present war is only a beginning, not the end. We have to consider what are our chances and what we ought to do in these circumstances. … Only, two things you will see obviously from it, first, the necessity of seizing on any opportunity that arises of organisation or military training (not self-sacrificing charity, that has already been done); secondly, the necessity of creating an organisation and finding the means, if no opportunity presents itself. It will be necessary for someone from Bengal to come and see me before long, but that will probably not be till October or later. I shall write to you before long farther on the subject, as, also on other matters.
Earlier, Sri Aurobindo wrote in Bande Mataram:
The young men of Bengal who had rushed forward in the frenzy of the moment, in the inspiration of the new gospel they had received, rushed forward rejoicing in the new-found strength and expecting to bear down all obstacles that came in their way, were now called upon to suffer. They were called upon to bear the crown, not of victory, but of martyrdom. They had to learn the real nature of their new strength. It was not their own strength, but it was the force which was working through them, and they had to learn to be the instruments of that force.
What is it that has been their strength, that has enabled them to stand against all temptations and against all dangers and obstacles? They have had one and all of them consciously or unconsciously one over-mastering idea, one idea which nothing can shake, and this was the idea that there is a great Power at work to help India, and that we are doing what it bids us. … When it is his will he will lead him aright.
… The leader is within yourselves. If you can only find him and listen to his voice, then you will not find that people will not listen to you, because there will be a voice within the people which will make itself heard. That voice and that strength is within you. If you feel it within yourselves, if you live in its presence, if it has become yourselves, then you will find that one word from you will awake an answering voice in others, that the creed which you preach will spread and will be received by all … Because God is there, and it is his Mission, and he has something for us to do. He has a work for this great and ancient nation.
If the regeneration of a nation is embodied in these writings, it is nothing but mental perversion to connect the early beginnings of the Struggle for India’s Independence as “terrorism” and directly or indirectly associating Sri Aurobindo with it.
Our historian says: “Chapekar brothers were executed in 1899.two or three years later, a group was founded in Bengal that became what I consider the first revolutionary organization in India that had clear political aim, and a realistic idea of what it would take to drive the British from the country. I will make this group the focus of my discussion of the violent mode of resistance in the Indian freedom movement. Its organizer, Aurobindo Ghose, was in many ways the anti-Gandhi: retiring, while Gandhi sought the spotlight; flexible while Gandhi insisted on strict adhesion of principles; open to the use of violence, while Gandhi made nonviolence the corner-stone of his action. In other ways however the two men had similar backgrounds: English education, familiarity with Western political theory, and a firm opposition to British rule in India.”
Every clause and sub-clause put here calls for rebuttal. But we must understand that the comparison made here essentially belongs to different periods of the Indian Independence Movement and hence somewhat anachronistic, disjointed. We should also understand that Sri Aurobindo’s main concern right from the beginning of his political life was India’s Independence which is not the same thing as “a firm opposition to British rule in India”. A hundred years ago he was the first to declare it so in the columns of Bande Mataram. Not much later Tilak formulated it as “Freedom (Swarajya) is my birthright and I shall have it.” Tilak had a complete social and national programme and it is that which ought to be recongnised even when he held strong revolutionary ideas as a part of political agenda—he had given advices to Chapeker. In fact that was so in the case of all the leaders of the time. Today practically none has it. In this context let us read the following from the Revolutionary Terrorist Movement which also misunderstands the entire nature of resurgence that was happening in the country.
The causes that resulted into the out come of Extremism also gave rise to the revolutionary terrorist movements. The revolutionists aimed at Indian independence by radical movements. The common aim of them was `Freedom of the Motherland from British Rule`. To them, it was western method of violence that could bring an end to the Western Imperialism. They used to stage acts like murder, dacoities, looting of banks, offices and even train derailments in order to finance their projects. The first indication of revolutionary movement in India took place in Maharashtra according to the authors of the Sedition Committee Report published in the year 1918 among the Chitpavan Brahmins of the Poona District. These Brahmins were the descendants of Peshwa rules. Lord Hastings under his headship overthrew the Peshwas. The discontent towards the British led them to revolt.
The Rand Murder at Poona, 1897—The Chapekar Brothers (Chitpavan Brahmins) Damodar and Balkrishna on 22nd June in the year 1897 pioneered the first political murder of Europeans. They targeted Mr Rand, the President of the Plague Committee at Poona but unfortunately Lt Ayerst was shot. The Chapekar Brothers were caught and hanged to death.
Shiyamji Krishnavarma and India House at London—Shiyamji Krishnavarma a qualified lawyer chose London to work for India`s liberation from the British oppression. With this aim he also established an organization namely the India Home Rule Society or India house. The Indian sociologist was the monthly journal published from the India house. VD Savarkar, Hardayal and Madan Lal Dhingra, a group of Indian revolutionaries became the members of India house after qualifying for the fellowship programme of Rs 1,000. They left for London. With the membership of these young partisans, the India House matured into a center for pro-India and anti-British propaganda. Col. William Curzon Wyllie, political ADC to the India office in the year 1909 was shot dead by Madan Lal Dhingra of India House. As a result Dhingra was caught and hanged to death; Savarkar was deported to India and sentenced to deportation for life, Shyamji left London for Paris.
The revolutionary activities in Bengal were started with bhadralok class. Anushilan Samiti established by P Mitra was a secret revolutionary society. The partition of Bengal led to the enlarged need of Swaraj. Many journals namely, Bhavani Mandir, the Yugantar, Sandhya started prophesying anti-British ideas. The young generation of Bengal started enrolling to the worship Bhawani as the manifestation of Shakti and to develop mental, physical, moral and spiritual strength. In the year 1907, they made an unsuccessful attempt to kill Lt. Governors of Eastern Bengal and Bengal.
The Muzaffarpur Murders and the Alipore Conspiracy Case—On 30th April in the year 1908, an attempt was taken to murder the Judge of Muzaffarpur and ex-chief Presidency Magistrate, Mr. Kingford. Prafulla Chaki and Khudiram Bose were charged with the bomb throwing. But unfortunately, the bomb killed two innocent ladies. Prafulla Chaki and Khudiram Bose both were caught. Chaki shot himself immediately but Bose was hanged to death. After the incident the government raided Maniktala Gardens for illicit arms and arrested 34 persons including Arobindo and Barindra Ghosh. They are judged in the Alipore Conspiracy case. At the time of trail approver Narendra Gosain, the public prosecutor, a deputy Superintendent on 24th February 1910 were shot dead. According to Rowlatt Committee report 110 dacoities and over 60 cases of attempt to murder were recorded during 1906-17.
In other provinces of India under the provisions of Regulation III of 1818 Lajpat Rai and Ajit Singh were deported. In Chandani Chowk, Delhi in December 1912, a bomb was thrown on Lord Harding on his state entry.
In order to meet the revolutionary activities, the government of India launched many acts like, The Prevention of Seditious Meetings Act 91907); The Explosive Substances Act (1908); The Indian Criminal Law Amendment Act (1908); The Newspaper (Incitement to Offences) Act, 1908, The Press Act of 1910 and The Obnoxious multi-fanged Defence of India Rules, 1915. After that, Gandhiji`s rise on the national scene through non-violent movements halted the pace of violent revolutionary activities.
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We might concede here for a moment those revolutionary activities being of a "violent" kind, but never can these be called “terrorist” activities. Armed revolution for a country’s cause is always accompanied by social reform, mass education, proposals for industrialization, cultural renaissance, and all that elevates the spirit of man, things that are always absent in terrorism. It is this lack of appreciation which makes statements like Sri Aurobindo’s association with the revolutionaries equivalent to terrorism very suspect and hence mischievous in fact highly condemnable. Such a statement coming especially from an Aurobindonian (?) becomes extremely deplorable.
If our historian tells us about Sri Aurobindo’s terrorist association, we’ve insufferable intellectuals of a certain brand who call him a religious fundamentalist. Here’s Rich Carlson:
Although Sri Aurobindo, the founder of Integral Yoga formally eschewed couching his yoga in religion nevertheless, religious practices crept into the practices of its followers. It is in fact the transference of Hindu religious practices on to Integral Yoga which has facilitated a fascination of some of his followers with the fundamentalist rhetoric of today’s militant Hindu nationalism, Hinduvta.
The earliest evidence for this is in Sri Aurobindo’s compositions during his political days: Hymn to Durga, Bhavani Bharati, Bande Mataram and conducting a periodical under that title, speeches proclaiming Sanatan Dharma which is equivalent to Hindutva, and so on. Durga Puja in Bengal was an outcome of such thoughts and actions on a social-religious level. Simultaneously, similar things happened in Maharashtra, under Tilak who was intimately connected with Sri Aurobindo, Tilak who had started Ganesh and Shivaji festivals to effectively "rouse the masses with a religious frenzy". During his Baroda-Calcutta period, Sri Aurobindo “discovered and immersed himself in the text and practices of Hinduism.”
Later, in the Ashram, while it can be said that Sri Aurobindo and the Mother both “did not actively seek worshipers and were kind to their followers, it can also be said that they did not reject the worship and deification of their devotees.” They encouraged in the Ashram “mimic traditional forms of Hinduism. These included performance of an audience with the Guru (darshan) and prostration at the feet of the Guru, and were deliberately cultivated.” In a yoga which claims to renounce religion and sectarianism this is certainly out of place. “It is this allegiance to Hinduism and the transference of its sectarian values system on to political discourse that no doubt facilitates the embrace of some Integral Yogis of reactionary Hindu nationalism.” The result is also that there is enormous adhesion to the Guru as an Avatar. It is a contradiction to hold ceremonies as means to spiritual progress when the urge is to move towards the future. That he takes the burden of the earth upon himself is the perpetuation of the old myth. It is an act of faith, and faith leads to fundamentalism—such is the swift conclusion at which the insufferable intellectuals arrive.
Carlson makes a reference to the latest biography of Sri Aurobindo—The Lives of Sri Aurobindo—and says that it is a “factually dependable and correct” account. Its author describes the leader's role in the freedom movement and in the framing of modern Indian spirituality. His biography is a sensitive, honest portrait of a life that also provides surprising insights into twentieth-century Indian history.
But in the end or in the ultimate analysis that role simply turns out to be the role of a terrorist associate and a religious fundamentalist. However, there are matters of deper perceptions and these must be given their full value.
It looks odd that when one talks of the Integral Yoga one is not able to reconcile Faith and Reason. But these are aspects of our total personality and are inevitably present in each one of us in different degrees and in different proportions, and it must be the business of the Integral Yoga to give them full value in our spiritual pursuits. If one’s mind is active it does not mean that one dismisses one’s heart, and vice versa. The entire discussion therefore boils down to the question: Has Sri Aurobindo’s Integral Yoga become a Religion? Perhaps the more basic, more appropriate question is: Can at all Sri Aurobindo’s Integral Yoga become a Religion? This also assumes that we understand precisely what is meant by the word ‘Religion’ in its several ramifications, a thing which has not really been defined anywhere in these grandiose formulations, religion meaning different things to different people. In the absence of any clear and cogent understanding of these matters to talk of religious fundamentalism is to distort things, is to produce and propagate deliberate confusion in the minds of people. It looks that there are destabilising forces or elements active in their suspicious designs. These need be thwarted. That itself is an aspect of open-minded nationalism.
Later, in the Ashram, while it can be said that Sri Aurobindo and the Mother both “did not actively seek worshipers and were kind to their followers, it can also be said that they did not reject the worship and deification of their devotees.” They encouraged in the Ashram “mimic traditional forms of Hinduism. These included performance of an audience with the Guru (darshan) and prostration at the feet of the Guru, and were deliberately cultivated.” In a yoga which claims to renounce religion and sectarianism this is certainly out of place. “It is this allegiance to Hinduism and the transference of its sectarian values system on to political discourse that no doubt facilitates the embrace of some Integral Yogis of reactionary Hindu nationalism.”
This is all pure B.S. spouting from over-educated intellects which have never been in the presence of a realized Master. While disciples may be imperfect and fake Gurus may also exist, the practice of bowing to the Guru has deep significance and can erase past Karmas. I had posted a quote of the Mother on this issue from Champaklal's treasures
The western mind always finds it difficult to submit totally to a Guru and without total and unquestioning surrender to the Guru his help to you is paralysed. That is why generally I advise westerners to find the guidance and the Presence within themselves; it is true that this process is very often open to uncertainty and self-deception, mistaking some voice of the ego in disguise for the Divine's guidance.
This is a story of Swami Sivananda giving a lesson on humility to his soon-to-be disciple Vishnu-devananda
A close disciple of Swami Sivananda, Swami Vishnudevananda, a Nair, was born in Kerala, South India on December 31, 1927. After a short career in the army, he coincidentally found interest in the teachings of Swami Sivananda through a copy of Sadhana Tattwa (Spiritual Instructions). Its introduction read, “An ounce of practice is worth tons of theory. Practice yoga, religion and philosophy in daily life and attain Self-realization”. Impressed, he travelled to Rishikesh to meet the author and the meeting, taking place on the stairs of the ashram leading to the Ganga (Ganges River), would change his life. Swami Sivananda was walking up the stairs and according to the custom, people were prostrating. The young army officer did not want to bow his head to anyone and hid in a doorway out of sight. A moment later, Swami Sivananda appeared unexpectedly, and prostrated to the arrogant young man. This lesson in humility was the first given to Swami Vishnudevananda by his guru.
"Here’s Rich Carlson:
Although Sri Aurobindo, the founder of Integral Yoga formally eschewed couching his yoga in religion nevertheless, religious practices crept into the practices of its followers. It is in fact the transference of Hindu religious practices on to Integral Yoga which has facilitated a fascination of some of his followers with the fundamentalist rhetoric of today’s militant Hindu nationalism, Hinduvta."
All motives and causative factors must be similarly examined: Could it be that the Judaeo-Christian upbringing of Carlson and his followers makes them secretly sympathetic towards Christian missionaries? Since the Hindutvawadis oppose missionary activities in India, Carslon is likely to be hostile towards them. Why should anyone have to assume that it is secular humanism that provokes his animosity?
To be intellectual is one thing and to be afflicted by the disease which can be called “intellectualites” is another. Dr Rahhu among many others of the insufferable species seems to be gravely affected by it. It also seems that the Integral Yoga is incapable of doing two things: straighten the tail of a black dog, and bring knowledge of higher intuition to the brainy guys who read a few books on postmodernism and give professional discourses in the academic circles. Should they remain shut in their own castles of ignorance, it wouldn’t matter at all; but they have also a tendency to expose their vulnerabilities. To talk what lies beyond their domain cannot but be called stupidity, and that stupidity comes out in every way. What is expected of a tight academician is professionalism and not platitude. I’d have liked to see at least one reference to the hundreds of posts that have showed not only the faults of the book, The Lives of Sri Aurobindo, but the falsification it presents, the commentator exposing the critics and buttressing his argument; but there is none. He should do it at least now. He has just to do appropriate search, and he will get hundreds of links.
Here is Dr Raghu’s text dated 26 May 2010:
I am writing to express strong and staunch support for your right to engage in the kind of work you have done in your book The Lives of Sri Aurobindo. The book is interesting and I would heartily recommend it to anyone interested in Aurobindo. The attempts of the members of the "cult of Aurobindo and the Mother" to discredit your work on the basis of inane, superstitious, and discredited beliefs about the "divinity" or "avatarhood" of Aurobindo and childish "discipleship" sentiments is deplorable. In fact, I think that the limitation of your work is that it is not sufficiently critical of the legends and myths surrounding Aurobindo, "the Mother", and the communities they helped to spawn.
One central delusion shared equally by Aurobindo and his pitiable disciples (some of whom, eg Champaklal, used to reverentially collect specimens of his hair and nail fragments!) is the belief that diseases can be cured by "Yogic force". As the record left by Nirodbaran of Aurobindo's last days clearly shows, Aurobindo believed that he had cured his prostatic trouble by his "yogic force" and said so to Dr Sanyal. Well, the weeks following this delusional claim provided hard reminders from Mother Nature on the realities of his condition. It should be noted that Aurobindo suffered from partial blindness for several years before his death. This partial blindness is, no doubt, further proof of the "descent of the supermind" into his body and its capacity for producing remarkable physical transformations!!!
"One day we came to notice that Sri Aurobindo’s urination had increased in frequency…The urine was examined and found to have an excessive amount of sugar with a trace of albumin. I reported the result to the Mother in Sri Aurobindo’s presence and said, “It looks like diabetes.” The Mother sharply reacted, “It is not diabetes.” …The Mother, however, reduced considerably the amount of starchy food, particularly rice and sweets for which Sri Aurobindo seemed to have a liking … I was asked to examine the urine every week and apprise him of the result. In a few weeks’ time it became sugar-free but the frequency did not altogether disappear. Sri Aurobindo too had noticed it. It made me suspect mild prostatic enlargement … I consulted [Dr Prabhat Sanyal] and at my request Sri Aurobindo saw him. After an enquiry he confirmed my suspicion, but added that it was just at the initial stage. He told Sri Aurobindo of the nature, course and complications of the disease, ultimately operation being the only radical cure. After a few months, on Sanyal’s second visit, Sri Aurobindo told him emphatically, “It is no more troubling me. I have cured it.” …During his last months the symptoms of prostatic enlargement reappeared and began to increase slowly…urinary symptoms were worsening and now a trace of albumin was detected…Then acetone appeared, a grave signal…[in the week following the Darshan of November 1950] The symptoms grew more serious and a partial obstruction to the flow of the urine made us think of medical intervention. When it became complete and was causing distress, Dr. [Satyabrata] Sen and we had no other alternative but to pass a catheter, much against his will. It was followed by immediate relief…" (Nirodbaran)
None of this merits any unusual consideration or critical attention were it not for the claim made by the Aurobindo and his disciples that he had used "yogic force" to cure himself. Clearly, the deterioration of his condition after making that claim to Dr Sanyal and the fact that a catheter, a real one and not a "yogic catheter", was needed to provide some temporary relief is sure proof that he had delusions about "yogic force" and its capacity to cure his own disease, not to mention bombastic claims about "supramentalization of the body", "physical immortality", and chimera of that ilk.
Does the fact that he had deluded himself on "yogic force" and its capacity to cure his disease show that all his contributions are without value? Not at all. Isaac Newton was giant of science, but he filled some of his notebooks with the most weird and unscientific claims, beliefs, and analysis pertaining to the Bible. The latter does not detract from his status as a genius of science. In the same way, I think, Aurobindo's contributions to Indian literature, his attempt to synthesize Upanishadic metaphysics and evolutionary science, his contributions to Indian political life and thought, and his pioneering efforts in systematizing the course of higher development of human consciousness remain valuable despite some of his striking delusions about using "yogic force" to cure diseases and to alter the course of world history.
There is a response to it, from Dr Alok Pandey:
The conclusions drawn by Dr Raghu are not only ill-informed but also illogical and unscientific. I am not sure whether he is a medical doctor or a research doctor, but this much I can say that he does not even know the definition of delusion. A Delusion is a false belief, held by deep conviction, despite evidence to the contrary. It is unshakable by reason and most importantly not shared by other members of the culture and social milieu. Leaving aside Sri Aurobindo for a moment, if one were to follow Dr Raghu's innovative self-styled criteria, then not only yogis and mystics all over the world but even the simple peasant having faith in God are all deluded people and need to see a psychiatrist. The only sane people left in the world would then be scientists like Mr Raghu and historians like Peter Heehs. One can imagine what a pitiable world would that be!
His conclusion itself is faulty and based on mixing up two different premises. Use of yogic force to cure illness is not the same as conquest of death. Death is not necessarily the result of an illness. It may be due to other factors such as ageing, genetic programming, accidents, poisoning, and so on. While the yogic force may succeed in curing illness, it yet may not be sufficient to conquer physical death and reverse the habit of millenniums (call it genetic programming if one likes). Dr Raghu needs to be first clear about his fundamentals, not only of science but also of logical reasoning.
Secondly, as Sri Aurobindo himself has pointed out, the use of yogic force does not guarantee cure. Can any allopath guarantee that in his system? Does it mean that there is no such thing as allopathy and all medical doctors are humbug and medical practitioners a self-deluded lot because they cannot cure even a common cold? May be they are, in all likelihood they are, for they are generally unwilling to look beyond the box. If only Dr Raghu looked beyond his early 20th century beliefs of the strict reductionist paradigm of the materialistic scientist, he would see that many scientists, researchers, leave aside yogis and mystics, are now coming to believe, accept, experiment, and use yogic force to cure illness. They may not always call it a yogic force, but that is another matter. Dr Raghu needs to update his knowledge.
Thirdly, belief in and the use of yogic force to cure illness is nothing new to Indian thought and also to western yoga. Many of us have witnessed and continue to witness instances of this kind. Thankfully the world is not limited to the beliefs and non-beliefs of Heehs and Co. There is much more on heaven and earth than some would like to believe. But that is another story, for people like to draw conclusions and believe what gives them solace and justifies their self-identity. Instead of expanding their limited tunnel vision, they try to restrict everything to that, and if something does not fit in there, they simply believe that it does not exist. But the limits of our sight are not the limits of Light.
He also ought to know that as Sri Aurobindo himself has pointed out at several places, Yogic force is one force in a vast and complex play of forces. It may not always succeed and is not unconditional. Fire burns but does not do so always. In certain conditions, it does not burn. Does it mean that there is no such thing as the burning property of fire? Sri Aurobindo has stated clearly that he seldom used the Supramental Force (which alone has an absolute action) because hardly anyone can hold it, and if one does, the results may be devastating. Not all can tolerate certain remedies. They are very effective but seldom used as the body may not be able to handle it. Is the doctor ignorant of these simple facts of everyday practice of medicine?
Through the use of Yogic Force, Sri Aurobindo was not just curing a few faithful disciples, but preparing humanity to receive and contain and later use the force as we today use electricity or nuclear energy. A deluded man thinks the force to be his personal private property. Sri Aurobindo, instead, related it to the planes of consciousness, to hidden possibilities of Nature (or Supernature), even the future potential to which all human beings can have access in due course of time if they can fulfil certain conditions. Is this the sign of someone deluded or that of a most meticulous scientific researcher? Surely the doctor needs to know that all research is done in this way. And we already see the result of this research done in the little laboratory of Pondicherry. Despite the sceptics and agnostics, the world is beginning to accept in all fields, including science, the paradigm shift initiated and completed by Sri Aurobindo. This is a subject too vast to explain now, but the dogmatic and arrogant scientist who holds fast to the crumbling mechanistic view of life, needs to update himself about all that Sri Aurobindo has written and all that is happening in the world of science rather than base his conclusions on the insufficient data derived from a clearly biased work as Mr Heehs’s book. Dr Raghu’s personal liking or disliking of a book is one thing, truth is another matter. The whole world may like a book and yet it is only worth the WPB. That is our stand.
We are not against the book simply because it challenges our beliefs, as if we need the testimony of a non-entity like Mr Heehs to have faith or understand things. Our main objection is that first of all it is Untruth (falsehood as it is called) and any sensible right thinking man must have enough courage to stand by Truth. What makes it worse is that not only it is falsehood but a conscious one, for it comes through the pen of someone who has spent decades at the Ashram and cannot claim ignorance of all that has been said by Sri Aurobindo. This book besides is a retrogressive step as it tries to re-establish the old materialistic paradigm that men all over the world are fast discarding. It is necessary to challenge it and set the record straight. Dr Raghu needs to know that not only old sadhakas but also new ones, including scientists and experts in their own field, trust Sri Aurobindo's vision and have ample evidence to testify it. It is not some cult or blind irrational belief, but the call of Truth that motivates us.
There is so much more to write on the subject with proper quotes etc. but I have no time. So let Mr Raghu rest in peace in the narrow corridors of his mind if he finds consolation in that hard material cocoon spun around our souls by the most ingenious artists of all—Nature—and let Mr Heehs remain in his self-created dungeon. Meanwhile the world advances quickly towards the great vision and the glorious path opened for earth and man by the tapasya of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother.
Let me also add Govind R about the manner in which The Lives of Sri Aurobindo has been drafted:
The subtlety and craft of the intelligence at work is truly amazing. … the claims of objectivity, in-depth research and of being an innermost member and intellectual leader of the ashram, have made this work a truly awesome weapon, so much so that it has managed to divide the Aurobindonian community itself!! This while there are still in existence those who have had personal, physical contact with the Mother and some even with Sri Aurobindo. Imagine what the effects will be across the rest of the world, even more so with the passage of time that inevitably blurs the truth about events and personalities, progressively opening greater vistas for re-interpretation and controversy. This book is only the beginning and is perhaps a catalyst to strengthen us in order to face the coming attacks and the obstacles ahead.
But perhaps more pertinent in the immediate context is the talk Nirodbaran, one of Sri Aurobindo’s personal attendants, gave in 1993 at Auroville. It appears in the September 1993 issue of Auroville Today. He said:
What I observed of his outer life over these years [1938-1950]—for I had no inkling of his inner life—can be divided into two categories; the impersonal and personal aspects… He started revising The Life Divine for hours on end, without referring to any books, like a machine that had been set going. He did not notice us—we were like shadows—and he was completely impervious to his bodily needs or the intense heat. In this way he completed the three volumes of The Life Divine before beginning to work again on Savitri.
This, then, was the impersonal aspect of Sri Aurobindo, which was the hallmark of his being and consciousness. But there were times also when he came down from his high consciousness, and would talk and joke with us; and these, for us, were the most beautiful times. We could ask anything, and he would answer slowly, in a few words, with a very sweet smile. But he would never look at us, and hardly ever call any of us by our name.
His humour encompassed everything. For example, during the war everything was rationed. And we, his attendants, among our other duties had to see that he cleared his bowels daily. One day we noticed he had passed very little. ‘Sir', we said, ‘What is this? Please try harder.' ‘It's war economy!' he replied. He was not one of these stiff, high and dry yogis!
At the very end his personal aspect was also there. Before he passed away he embraced his great bhakta, Champaklal, three, four, five times in a vast recognition of his service. We were amazed. Then, a few minutes before the end, he called me. ‘Nirod, give me some water.' It was the first time he had called me by my name, and those few, sweet words are imprinted on my soul…..He was always poised, serene, above all attachments, perfectly free. He himself said, ‘There is nothing human in me'. But it wasn't inborn. He told us he had had many faults in his nature, but he had transformed his nature by sheer tapasya, by the practice of yoga, by identification with the Divine. For nobody can become a perfect man by his own efforts.
No less a person than Nirodbaran, one of the close attendants of Sri Aurobindo for the last twelve years of his physical life here, says that he “had no inkling of his inner life”; Dr Sanyal, an FRCS, who attended Sri Aurobindo regarding medical matters, also speaks essentially in the same manner. But here is Dr Raghu the smart who knows it all, the inner life of Sri Aurobindo, and it is this, or vice versa, which is presented in the ill-begotten The Lives of Sri Aurobindo!!
I wouldn't waste effort arguing with this Doctor Raghu. He has to follow his Swadharma as a doctor and we have to live ours. He is free to think what he wants about Sri Aurobindo, Heehs and other. He can call us a cult and we don't object to it either.
I have been saying all along that people who read this book "Lives of Sri Aurobindo" would conclude that Sri Aurobindo died a failure and Dr Raghu's comments have revealed this precise issue. Those who are inside the "cult" gush about the book because they read it from the prism of their own beliefs. But for people outside the "cult", the occult realities behind the physical realities need to be explained thoroughly, otherwise they may draw the wrong conclusions. If the biography is not going to discuss the occult realities, then it must also omit the physical realities. Unfortunately, this historian is so anal-retentive that he doesn't know how to make such trade-offs.
I wouldn't waste effort arguing with this Doctor Raghu.
Good advice - it's useful to ascertain whether a rationalist understands the incompleteness theorem of logic before engaging in a discussion. In the end, all such discussions boil down to whether (in one way of putting it) the brain (matter) is the cause and consciousness (spirit) the effect or vice versa. It is all a matter of experience (often incommunicable) - this topic is beyond the scope of rationality.
Nevertheless, I asked about the placebo effect because is it not a delusion after all, and does it not work in some cases (statistically verified)? A true rationalist would delve into this effect, understand how it works, perfect its essential action, and perhaps even use it to improve the lot of a section of humanity. If done, he would be taking the first steps in the path of "Aurobindo's central delusions" [sic]. But it is so much easier to tear down than to build up ...
I wonder how Dr Raghu knows that the "pitiable Champaklal" (as he calls him) collected "hair and nail fragments". He demonstrates intimate knowledge of Sri Aurobindo's life which must have come from reading other books. Why did he read so much when he thinks Sri Aurobindo was having delusions. Or did he get this information from Heehs ?
Incidentally, this is one of the other problems with this book. Heehs portrays almost all disciples of Sri Aurobindo (Champaklal, Purani) as emotionally unbalanced.
The occult realities behind Sri Aurobindo's death as follows :
"Sri Aurobindo went because one of them had to go – both could not stay. He has experienced the Supramental in the physical but it would not stabilize. He informed her that her body was more capable of transformation than his body so she would be able to continue the work. He did not cure the disease because otherwise the Mother wouldn’t have let him go. He transferred his subtle-physical into the Mother’s body. "
I got all this information from the Agenda and can list the references.
We trust the explanation of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, even though we may not understand everything right away. If Heehs think that the Mother was lying, then he can leave the Ashram. He can do his scholarly work in some university and criticize the "Aurobindo Cult" as much as he wants. No problem.
There are some so-called “senior sadhaks” who have been around 30+ years and who obscure this issue by appealing us to be more broad-minded and castigating us for not being able to “withstand criticism and scrutiny” of the Master. We are quite willing to put up with criticism as long as it comes from outside the Ashram rather than inside the Ashram.
>>Both could not stay>>
Sri Aurobindo had told the Mother that her body was fitter than his. But I believe that there is something more profound, more occult-yogic than this. It looks that the Yoga of the Avatar was on the golden path of completion and that the Yoga of the divine Shakti had to begin on the diamond haste of transformation. He wills; she executes. It was time for the second to begin. But all this is altogether beyond the reach of the Raghus of the world. Please read also my comment on “Death’s tremendous hour” in response to Arvind’s.
Maybe I am missing something - who is this "Dr" Raghu and why is he getting even the little attention he has received so far? From what he has written, he appears to have closed his mind to SA and is trying to justify his own prejudices. His "analysis" of different incidents and narratives assuming them necessarily to be sequential, linked, or complete, dont speak well of him. He may just be one more plant of the SCIY crowd and should simply be ignored.
I don’t know if it is time to write a Petrarchan sonnet on Dr Raghu. Let’s see. In any case, he has marked copies of his email addressed to the author of The Lives of Sri Aurobindo to CUP and the Managing Trustee of the Ashram. I wonder if someone can bring this discussion to their notice.
Dr Raghu responds to Dr Alok Pandey
Let us first take note of Dr Alok Pandey’s intemperate tone of response and personal attacks, the very antithesis of all that the first steps of “integral yoga” require in the face of criticism. Is he even aware of this? He refers to Peter Heehs as a “non-entity”! Such dehumanizing language is far from any form of spirituality worth its salt. Have some respect for people, you self-styled advocate of “integral yoga”! A Delusion is a false belief, held by deep conviction, despite evidence to the contrary. It is unshakable by reason…
That’s correct and I implicitly use this in my argument.
It is unshakable by reason and most importantly not shared by other members of the culture and social milieu.
Yes, a delusion is impervious to reason.
most importantly not shared by other members of the culture and social milieu.
Not necessarily true. Haven’t you heard of “collective delusion” characteristic of cults, hysterical mass movements, and totalitarian groups? You would not need to look very far from where you are to find examples of collective delusion!
not only yogis and mystics all over the world but even the simple peasant having faith in God are all deluded people and need to see a psychiatrist.
If a belief held by these “yogis and mystics” fits the definition of “delusion”, then logic entails that you conclude that these people are holding on to a delusion in respect of that belief. It doesn’t follow that they need to see a psychiatrist unless that belief leads to serious behavioral problems and conditions of dysfunction. You fail to distinguish between two forms of “delusion” here, one consisting in holding a belief contrary to evidence and the other which is a pathological condition of mind. When one entertains a delusional belief, there is always a risk falling eventually into a pathological condition, but not everyone who entertains a delusional belief falls into that pathological condition. If I believe that the Sun and Moon are actually deities or supernatural beings, I am deluded in holding this belief since the scientific truth is that they are material objects and not persons. However, as long as this belief does not mess up my life and disable me from performing everyday tasks, I am not in a pathological condition of delusion.
His conclusion itself is faulty and based on mixing up two different premises. Use of yogic force to cure illness is not the same as conquest of death. Death is not necessarily the result of an illness.
I am addressing the issue of this “use of yogic force to cure illness”. My premises pertain to the evidence against the belief that Aurobindo cured his prostatic enlargement and its attendant complications. Your response does not refute my premises which state the facts that a) Aurobindo claimed to have cured himself, and b) He succumbed to his terminal illness.
Secondly, as Sri Aurobindo himself has pointed out, the use of yogic force does not guarantee cure.
That’s very kind of him and it assuredly helps to protect his reputation and tall claims in the face of failures to cure someone of a health problem. This is standard stock-in-trade “escape clause” of religious figures. If a prayer to heal doesn’t work, then it was because the subject did not have “sufficient faith” or perhaps his or her “Karma” was too powerful? This offers immunity against the charge of failure and makes the claim that prayer has healing power unfalsifiable or irrefutable. Why doesn’t the use of “yogic force” guarantee a cure? If it is supposed to be a superior force to medicines and medical treatment, why not? If it is on the same level as medicines and medical treatment in its potency, then how is it a superior force to medicines and medical treatment? What evidence do we have in the first place that such a force unknown and undocumented by common-sense and science actually exists if all cases in which it is alleged that it had played a role are also cases in which medicines and medical treatment have been used?
Why do the purveyors of these sorts of “occult forces” always rely on medicines and medical treatment to attempt cure their own illnesses if indeed those “occult forces” are so potent?
If only Dr Raghu looked beyond his early 20th century beliefs of the strict reductionist paradigm of the materialistic scientist, he would see that many scientists, researchers, leave aside yogis and mystics, are now coming to believe, accept, experiment, and use yogic force to cure illness. They may not always call it a yogic force, but that is another matter. Dr Raghu needs to update his knowledge.
This is all just a long yarn! Who are these “scientists and researchers”? By what other name do they call “yogic force” to cure illness? Could that name be “medical science”? Give us your names and data and don’t make tall claims without evidence! I may need to update my knowledge and am always open to doing so, but you seem to be desperately in need of knowledge in the first place!
Thirdly, belief in and the use of yogic force to cure illness is nothing new to Indian thought and also to western yoga. Many of us have witnessed and continue to witness instances of this kind.
“Western yoga”? What is that? There’s only yoga and it is also practiced in the West. The people who teach and practice it in the West always reach for pain killers and get chiropractic treatment if they pull a muscle or two in trying to contort their bodies to fit yogic postures.
I bet the instances you are talking about all involve cases in which the subject is also undergoing medical treatment! What are these instances and who are the “many of us” you are talking about? Again, even a drop of knowledge would be helpful here!
He also ought to know that as Sri Aurobindo himself has pointed out at several places, Yogic force is one force in a vast and complex play of forces. It may not always succeed and is not unconditional.
Anyone can posit any force in this manner and insulate it from verification and refutability. First, define what it is in intelligible and testable terms! Tell us first of all how one is to detect the reality of this “yogic force”? What is the evidence for its existence? Unless you do that you are dealing with a chimera and all the qualifications you adduce are but “sound and fury signifying nothing.”!
Sri Aurobindo has stated clearly that he seldom used the Supramental Force (which alone has an absolute action) because hardly anyone can hold it, and if one does, the results may be devastating.
Well, for a start he could have used it on himself and cured his partial blindness, prostate, and kidney problems! Are you now going to tell me that his illness and death were the result of his unwise use of this “Supramental Force” on himself???? If that’s not the case, why did he miss a marvelous opportunity as a “scientist of yoga” and “mystic empiricist” to demonstrate its power by using it to cure his health problems?
Through the use of Yogic Force, Sri Aurobindo was not just curing a few faithful disciples, but preparing humanity to receive and contain and later use the force as we today use electricity or nuclear energy.
I don’t believe that humanity made any such request of him! So, it is mighty presumptuous of him to try to prepare humanity “to receive and contain and later use the force”. What humanity, especially in India, needs is more and better-equipped hospitals and access to modern medicines in its rural areas not false promises and tall tales of the availability of some miraculous force in some remote future epoch! In any case, “Physician heal thyself first” is always a good response to anyone trying to sell some new miraculous cure!
This book besides is a retrogressive step as it tries to re-establish the old materialistic paradigm that men all over the world are fast discarding.
It is obvious that you have not read Mr. Heehs’ book! He doesn’t do anything even remotely like it. I wish he had tried to something of the sort you allege that he has done!
And, just in case you have allowed the times to pass you by sitting in your small “supramental clinic” in Pondicherry, the news from the wide world beyond is that even consciousness is increasingly viewed in neuroscience as a function of the brain and biological/genetic explanations are also beginning to dominate psychology, sociology, and anthropology. Far from there being any kind of a turn away from materialism, there is in fact a resurgence and renewal of it in many diverse fields of science. But I guess the heavy downpour of “supramental light” in Pondicherry has veiled all this from your “vision”! See you in the “Supramental Life”! LOL LOL LOLThe above is via an e-mail sent to me by Dr Raghu, dated 1 June 2010. I suggest him, if he desires so, to post his further comments directly on the Mirror. ~ RYD
Reality and the Integral Knowledge—on Objectivity
There are different orders of reality; the objective and physical is only one order. It is convincing to the physical or externalising mind because it is directly obvious to the senses, while of the subjective and the supraphysical that mind has no means of knowledge except from fragmentary signs and data and inferences which are at every step liable to error. Our subjective movements and inner experiences are a domain of happenings as real as any outward physical happenings; but if the individual mind can know something of its own phenomena by direct experience, it is ignorant of what happens in the consciousness of others except by analogy with its own or such signs, data, inferences as its outward observation can give it. I am therefore inwardly real to myself, but the invisible life of others has only an indirect reality to me except in so far as it impinges on my own mind, life and senses. This is the limitation of the physical mind of man, and it creates in him a habit of believing entirely only in the physical and of doubting or challenging all that does not come into accord with his own experience or his own scope of understanding or square with his own standard or sum of established knowledge.
This ego-centric attitude has in recent times been elevated into a valid standard of knowledge; it has been implicitly or explicitly held as an axiom that all truth must be referred to the judgment of the personal mind, reason and experience of every man or else it must be verified or at any rate verifiable by a common or universal experience in order to be valid. But obviously this is a false standard of reality and of knowledge, since this means the sovereignty of the normal or average mind and its limited capacity and experience, the exclusion of what is supernormal or beyond the average intelligence. In its extreme, this claim of the individual to be the judge of everything is an egoistic illusion, a superstition of the physical mind, in the mass a gross and vulgar error. The truth behind it is that each man has to think for himself, know for himself according to his capacity, but his judgment can be valid only on condition that he is ready to learn and open always to a larger knowledge. It is reasoned that to depart from the physical standard and the principle of personal or universal verification will lead to gross delusions and the admission of unverified truth and subjective phantasy into the realm of knowledge. But error and delusion and the introduction of personality and one's own subjectivity into the pursuit of knowledge are always present, and the physical or objective standards and methods do not exclude them. The probability of error is no reason for refusing to attempt discovery, and subjective discovery must be pursued by a subjective method of enquiry, observation and verification; research into the supraphysical must evolve, accept and test an appropriate means and methods other than those by which one examines the constituents of physical objects and the processes of Energy in material Nature.
To refuse to enquire upon any general ground preconceived and a priori is an obscurantism as prejudicial to the extension of knowledge as the religious obscurantism which opposed in Europe the extension of scientific discovery. The greatest inner discoveries, the experience of self-being, the cosmic consciousness, the inner calm of the liberated spirit, the direct effect of mind upon mind, the knowledge of things by consciousness in direct contact with other consciousness or with its objects, most spiritual experiences of any value, cannot be brought before the tribunal of the common mentality which has no experience of these things and takes its own absence or incapacity of experience as a proof of their invalidity or their non-existence. Physical truth of formulas, generalisations, discoveries founded upon physical observation can be so referred, but even there a training of capacity is needed before one can truly understand and judge; it is not every untrained mind that can follow the mathematics of relativity or other difficult scientific truths or judge of the validity either of their result or their process. All reality, all experience must indeed, to be held as true, be capable of verification by a same or similar experience; so, in fact, all men can have a spiritual experience and can follow it out and verify it in themselves, but only when they have acquired the capacity or can follow the inner methods by which that experience and verification are made possible. It is necessary to dwell for a moment on these obvious and elementary truths because the opposite ideas have been sovereign in a recent period of human mentality,— they are now only receding,—and have stood in the way of the development of a vast domain of possible knowledge. It is of supreme importance for the human spirit to be free to sound the depths of inner or subliminal reality, of spiritual and of what is still superconscient reality, and not to immure itself in the physical mind and its narrow domain of objective external solidities; for in that way alone can there come liberation from the Ignorance in which our mentality dwells and a release into a complete consciousness, a true and integral self-realisation and self-knowledge.
An integral knowledge demands an exploration, an unveiling of all the possible domains of consciousness and experience. For there are subjective domains of our being which lie behind the obvious surface; these have to be fathomed and whatever is ascertained must be admitted within the scope of the total reality. An inner range of spiritual experience is one very great domain of human consciousness; it has to be entered into up to its deepest depths and its vastest reaches. The supraphysical is as real as the physical; to know it is part of a complete knowledge. The knowledge of the supraphysical has been associated with mysticism and occultism, and occultism has been banned as a superstition and a fantastic error. But the occult is a part of existence; a true occultism means no more than a research into supraphysical realities and an unveiling of the hidden laws of being and Nature, of all that is not obvious on the surface. It attempts the discovery of the secret laws of mind and mental energy, the secret laws of life and life-energy, the secret laws of the subtle-physical and its energies,—all that Nature has not put into visible operation on the surface; it pursues also the application of these hidden truths and powers of Nature so as to extend the mastery of the human spirit beyond the ordinary operations of mind, the ordinary operations of life, the ordinary operations of our physical existence. In the spiritual domain which is occult to the surface mind in so far as it passes beyond normal and enters into supernormal experience, there is possible not only the discovery of the self and spirit, but the discovery of the uplifting, informing and guiding light of spiritual consciousness and the power of the spirit, the spiritual way of knowledge, the spiritual way of action. To know these things and to bring their truths and forces into the life of humanity is a necessary part of its evolution. Science itself is in its own way an occultism; for it brings to light the formulas which Nature has hidden and it uses its knowledge to set free operations of her energies which she has not included in her ordinary operations and to organise and place at the service of man her occult powers and processes, a vast system of physical magic,—for there is and can be no other magic than the utilisation of secret truths of being, secret powers and processes of Nature. It may even be found that a supraphysical knowledge is necessary for the completion of physical knowledge, because the processes of physical Nature have behind them a supraphysical factor, a power and action mental, vital or spiritual which is not tangible to any outer means of knowledge. Apropos of Dr Raghu’s comments, Auroman has sent the above from The Life Divine, pp. 649-52. I may add him to be acquainted also with the tools of cognition Sri Aurobindo presents in The Synthesis of Yoga and the commentary on Kena Upanishad, Sense behind the senses, and so on. A careful study of Sri Aurobindo's works will go a long way, at least in refraining one from making frivolous or hasty statements. ~ RYD
This "doctor", whatever his medical credentials, is at the very least an intellectual quack. Without the least bit of understanding or experience he takes on the whole subject of "Yogic" powers, dismisses them summarily as a delusion and then, like a petulant child, expects that those he denounces and vilifies will go out of their way to spoon-feed and carefully administer to him the knowledge that will deliver him from his own blind beliefs and prejudices. It is more than obvious that to try to educate this lazy and slothful kind of mentality would be a giant exercise in futility. If he is genuine in his quest for knowledge, as he so pompously claims to be, then he can very easily take up the Yoga or any other Yoga and verify for himself the results. If he were the least bit sincere and possessed of an iota of the truly "scientific" spirit, this would be the only course of action he need adopt to answer his doubts. Instead he chooses to waste his own and other people's time in useless sarcastic e-mails and needlessly abrasive verbal pugilism. We should happily ignore the jarring croaks of such self-important koopa-mandooks who choose to stay confined in the well of their own comfortable delusions and self-inflicted littleness, while broadcasting their contempt for those outside of it. However, the true value of Raghu's rant is that it demonstrates starkly how this book serves as ammunition in the hands of the hostile and the close-minded. Indeed, this smug little brain has used only one small section of the book to attack Sri Aurobindo, the disciples and Yoga in general. There is infinitely greater room for more such mischief based on other parts and passages in the book. This is what critics of the book have been pointing out consistently since the very beginning, that the book lends itself naturally to such abuse and distortion of its great subject. If anything, Raghu proves the point that the book's critics have been making from day one. No doubt more such worthies will crawl out of the woodwork in support of the book. It is to be hoped that effusive praise from such nakedly hostile individuals will have the inadvertent effect of opening the eyes of those within the Aurobindonian community who have chosen to endorse this book themselves.
Bio: Dr. Thill Raghu is a professor of philosophy at CSN. He obtained his master’s degree and Ph.D. from McMaster University, Ontario, Canada and has taught extensively in Canada and the United States. Of Indian origin, he specializes in Asian and comparative philosophy and teaches an online course in Asian philosophical traditions.
He seems to be super-charged with some kind of mission to bust the myths of the "Aurobindo cult". Very well...
Quote from the Godfather: "Do you know who I am? I'm Moe Greene! I made my bones when you were going out with cheerleaders!"
Excellent work! So this sophist is neither in medicine, nor into Yoga and yet speaks like the ultimate authority on both. From his words it would appear that as a part of his PhD he may have specialized in sarcasm and condescension. No wonder this attention-hungry bombast feels the great need to preface every one of his IDs with "Dr." Oh, we are all very impressed. ;-)
I was also suspecting this Dr. Raghu of being the same "Dr. R" who has recently been posting on SCIY ridiculing Sri Aurobindo's philosophy of evolution. Far from being a "plant of the SCIY crowd", he suspects they are “Aurobindonian Fundamentalists”! This is what a genuine Sri Aurobindo detractor sounds like. See comments starting from here, especially here.
What goes around comes around - so the SCIY crowd got stuck with their own label? One man's progressive/relativist is another man's fundamentalist and vice versa.
About "Dr" Raghu - genuine detractor he may be, but I do credit him for being transparent in his antagonism.
But come to think of it, people do admire qualities in others that they dont possess at all or only possess to a limited extent. For example, I might be unable to keep myself from lying most of the time and might admire those who are far more truthful than me. Of course you could always argue that I possess enough truthfullness in me to admire it.
You may have heard the story about how a prostitute would constantly condemn herself for not being like the sage who lived near her and always appeared to be immersed in prayer. The rest of the parable may not be pertinent but is worth narrating. The sage on the other hand was very sanctimonious and constantly thought himself to be far superior to the lady of the night. When the time came for both of them to depart the world, it was the lady who went to heaven!
We may never be able to convince Dr Raghu about Sri Aurobindo's use of yogic force to cure illness but between ourselves, this is a dialogue from the Mother's Agenda October 19, 1960 on Sri Aurobindo's decision to leave his body.
Satprem >> That's what annoys me sometimes. Why not have this mastery? We SHOULD be masters of it. With consciousness, we should be able to be the masters of our bodies.
Mother >> Yes, this was precisely the extraordinary thing Sri Aurobindo had. He made no effort ... But then he didn't use it on himself!
But for humans, this is something UNTHINKABLE.
He wanted to go.
You see, he had decided to go. But he didn't want me to know that he was doing it deliberately; he knew that if for a single moment I knew he was doing it deliberately, I would have reacted with such a violence that he would not have been able to leave!
And he did this ... he bore it all as if it were some unconsciousness, an ordinary illness, simply to keep me from knowing - and he left at the very moment he had to leave. But ...
And I couldn't even imagine he was gone once he had gone, just there, in front of me - it seemed so far away ... And then afterwards, when he came out of his body and entered into mine, I understood it all ... It's fantastic.
Fantastic.
It's ... it's absolutely superhuman. There's not one human being capable of doing such a thing. And what ... what a mastery of his body - absolute, absolute!
And when it came to others ... he could remove an illness like that (gesture, as if Mother were calmly extracting an illness from the body with her fingertips). That happened to you once, didn't it? You said that I had done this for you - but it wasn't me; he was the one who did it ... He could give you peace in the mind in the same way (Mother brushes her hand across her forehead). You see, his actions were absolutely ... On others, it had all the characteristics of a total mastery ... Absolutely superhuman.
Further to my earlier comment, I wish to add the following:
1. I am willing to discuss the issue of consciousness (whether it is primary or an epiphenomenon to material activity), yogic cure (whether it is all a hoax or there is some truth in it) provided we leave Sri Aurobindo's personal life out of it. If He is attacked personally, then I will feel obliged to respond in the same vein—yo yathā mām.
2. I would like to know if Dr Raghu is only a scientist or also one who has tried to and has some experience of spiritual truths and yogic life. Otherwise we may just be speaking nonsense to him since he has not the experience. A man may be great in his own field but it does not make him automatically great in other fields. Sachin may be and is of course a great cricketer, but that does not make him an expert in football.
3. I would also like to know if Dr Raghu has read Sri Aurobindo at all. He has already anticipated and replied to all these rather childish queries at great length and succinctly. If not, then I would advice him as a starter to first read The Life Divine, Savitri and Letters on Yoga and also some of the early writings on Consciousness. If he does not have the time, then he can read the compilation on Integral Healing. And if he is not inclined to read and understand the other point of view, then it is better that he stays in his own field and do the best he can to improve the human lot and let the spiritual scientist do in his own way what he can do to improve the earth. Why quarrel unless he is arrogantly stuck to his point of view and is a crusader in the garb of a scientist?
4. Let us also not mix up the two issues, The Lives of Sri Aurobindo and its author on one side and the aspect of yogic cure on the other.
By the way, he seems to be saying that Sri Aurobindo wrote great poetry but does PH say that? Anyway, the simple fact is that none of us went out hunting for PH or Raghu, or anyone else. It is he and some of these guys who tried to prick pins and throw darts laced with poison and when they are returned back to them with a thank you note attached, they fume and cry foul and try to teach us what Integral Yoga is about. Well, personally to me, Yoga or no yoga, I just love Sri Aurobindo and the Mother for what They have done and even without it. And I am not going to take nonsense about Them from any quarter. Let each remain where he is with his belief or non-belief. There is no issue with that. But if you try to sully Sri Aurobindo's Name, then don't whimper if you are given back your due.
Unfortunately, I do not have the resources and even the net connection until the 19th June. So I may not be able to respond to anything before that. But if Dr R is keen to know and discuss honestly in the spirit of science, then let him step out of his big material cocoon into our small supramental clinic and we can chat there to his heart's content.
Prof Raghu and his delusion about Sri Aurobindo
Prof Raghu—that is how he used to sign in earlier days—tells us that Sri Aurobindo “had deluded himself on ‘yogic force’ and its capacity to cure his disease”. Great! Hallelujah to the brave and the strident! Glory to Prof Raghu, and also to that brilliant tribe finding extraordinary things in The Lives of Sri Aurobindo! That is the beauty and the triumph of the rational mind running on the Highway 101! If a truck with ten heavy wheels plying on it would crush a poor Ebenezer, it would care in the least. It wouldn’t realize that that Ebenezer is none but its own small little precious soul, the petite.
But those who would, would remember Moses who had asked God to show him his glory. God answered for the sake of the innocent and the simple and the spontaneous and that took Moses by surprise, that even his own faith got stunned. And he narrated to the innocent and the simple and the spontaneous the story of the stone soup. One of the versions that came down is as follows:
From a distant land arrive in a village some travellers, who are by now tired and are hungry. They carry with them nothing but an empty pot. Upon their arrival, the villagers are unwilling to share any of their food stores with the hungry travellers. The travellers fill the pot with water, drop a large stone in it, and place it over a fire in the village square. One of the villagers becomes curious and asks what they are doing. The travelers answer that they are making "stone soup", which tastes wonderful, although it still needs a little bit of garnish to improve the flavor, which they are missing. The villager doesn't mind parting with just a little bit of flour to help them out, so it gets added to the soup. Another villager walks by, inquiring about the pot, and the travelers again mention their stone soup which hasn't reached its full potential yet. The villager hands them a little bit of seasoning to help them out. More and more villagers walk by, each adding another ingredient. Finally, a delicious and nourishing pot of soup is enjoyed by all.
Here is a little girl enjoying the delicious soup.If only we’ve hearts as simple as hers! But for smart and successful Raghus of the postmodernist world—a world which perhaps doesn’t have much width and breadth and practically has no height and depth—this is all monkey business and imbecility and stupidity of an underdeveloped mind. In fact Raghus of the postmodernist world would rush to proclaim that this is all delusion.
But what is delusion? Wikipedia has the following:
A delusion, in everyday language, is a fixed belief that is either false, fanciful, or derived from deception. Psychiatry defines the term more specifically as a belief that is pathological (the result of an illness or illness process). As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, dogma, stupidity, apperception, illusion, or other effects of perception.
Delusions typically occur in the context of neurological or mental illness, although they are not tied to any particular disease and have been found to occur in the context of many pathological states (both physical and mental). However, they are of particular diagnostic importance in psychotic disorders and particularly in schizophrenia, paraphrenia, manic episodes of bipolar disorder, and psychotic depression.
Did Sri Aurobindo derive his delusion from deception, if it was on a fixed belief which could also be false or fanciful? Can Raghus of the postmodernist world throw their darkly glorious light on this delusion of Sri Aurobindo, to whom is also accredited the capacity of using a yogic force? Did Sri Aurobindo delude himself to be a yogi, then? Or else, was his delusion pathological? Was he suffering from mental illness? The author of The Lives of Sri Aurobindo asserts it so, that he had inherited a streak of madness from his mother. Prof Raghu suspends his independent thinking and goes on to tell us that what the biographer has given us is too little. If he has, as his remark implies, then with other considerations based on his professional acquisition he should come out in full. Whatever be the cause, or causes, of Sri Aurobindo’s ‘delusion’, we should also be told by him if it was inborn, or inherited, or he had developed this later in the course of his life in which case when and how? It will be rewarding if the learned professor can go into some specific details and ‘enlighten’ us. If he doesn’t have an answer directly with him, he can, à la his biographer-friend, scour gunny-bags to get bits and pieces of information from the old records of Sri Aurobindo’s life. But the impression we get about Prof Raghu is that he is essentially acting as an agent for him. He not only sends a letter of appreciation to the biographer; he marks copies to the publisher and the Managing Trustee of the Ashram. There is more than academic in it.
If we see Prof Raghu as an academician then one thing that escapes all comprehension is, in his reckoning, a deluded person can still be one who could write wonderful acceptable books, and about whom big biographies can be written and published by the academic institutions. Where and how does one draw a line between the two, between a deluded person and a wonderful author or writer of thick fat books? And, then, when and how does one become selective while approaching him? If the criteria are subjective, under what conditions can these be presented to an open forum, which insists only on objectivity? But here is a gem of another fantasy which only Raghus of the postmodernist world can produce: “Any lunatic or deluded fool can rant and rave about ‘physical immortality’ and the like. It is only science which will ultimately discover the origin and the cessation of death. It will do so by discovering the physical causes of death and the physical means of overcoming or changing those causal factors. Yogic pipedreams, however inspiring, are simply that, pipedreams! Woe unto those who conflate pipedreams with real solutions!” Such are Raghus of the postmodernist world with their own beliefs, without realising that they are living in their own delusion, in a terrible delusion. We don’t know to which science these Raghus of the postmodernist world are referring, which science has advanced to lend support to make such an assertion. And how does he assure that it is not a delusion? If by the combination of constituents new formations take place, they do not possess the properties of their constituents. We are all made of the same ingredients, electrons and protons and neutrons, including myself, and Prof Raghu, and a dog with a black tail, and a donkey, but science is unable to tell why we are all different in character and behaviour and manners, and why a bald-headed learned person who could be a Raghu become a professor of philosophy, and another a swindler, and a third an aspirant for a spiritual life. Whence comes delusion for some and comprehension or level-headed thinking to others? Let us remember Hamlet, facing a delusion:
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
But the truth is, something is rotten in the state of Denmark, and that Denmark is the world of dehumanized rationalists, of those who never had contact with their own true being. This is what The Lives of Sri Aurobindo is spawning and this is what Raghus of the postmodernist world are promoting. God may or may not save the king, but one wonders if he can save this lot at all. Perhaps like Hawking they don’t need God. All that one can say to them is, “Good luck!”
Let us take the following statement from Raghus of the postmodernist world:
Any lunatic or deluded fool can rant and rave about “physical immortality” and the like—
and this is what Raghus of the postmodernist world upload on the world-wide pages of thought, and they do so while referring to Sri Aurobindo. Even if it is on the world-wide pages of thought, perhaps it should not concern us if we are to go by the acceptable argument of Auroman that, in contrast to the writer of The Lives of Sri Aurobindo, Prof Raghu is an outsider and not an Ashramite. And yet it should concern us. He could surely write a note of appreciation to the biographer, though one would start wondering why it should have taken him to do so two years after the publication of the book—unless at present there is some concealed intention behind it. The fact that he has not taken into account the vast professional criticism on the biography that has come out during this period is proof enough to support the theory of motivation. If it is just a plain note of appreciation addressed to the author, one would like to ask why at all copies of it were sent to the CUP and the Managing Trustee of the Ashram, and of course given such wide publicity. And what should the Managing Trustee do about it? Should he simply swallow it, should he observe nonsensical silence? If Raghus of the postmodernist world write in context of Sri Aurobindo that “any lunatic or deluded fool can rant and rave about ‘physical immortality’ and the like”, should he not tear it down? Raghus of the postmodernist world are of course entitled to hold their own view or views in private or in public, but not the head of an Institution carrying the name of a person who is being criticized, nay misrepresented, falsified, discredited for all that he stood for and all that he did, and he is doing? If he has written to Raghus of the postmodernist world about it, it should be made public, for the matter has gone on the Internet. If this has not happened, let us hope this will happen.
But before he does it, let him recollect what on 28 December 1950 the Mother had said about the passing away of Sri Aurobindo, he “succumbing” to death. She had told that Sri Aurobindo had deliberately left his physical body to hasten the manifestation of the Supramental in the earth-atmosphere. “Our Lord has sacrificed himself totally for us…He was not compelled to leave his body, he chose to do so for reasons so sublime that they are beyond the reach of the human mentality.” Prior to this event, Sri Aurobindo and the Mother had assessed the entire situation, the pragmatics of the occult and the yogic. It seemed that, in order to fulfill their yoga of supramental descent and transformation, one of them had to go. The Mother expressed her willingness to depart, and told him so. Sri Aurobindo replied: “If one of us must go, I want that it should be me.—it can’t be you, because you alone can do the material thing.” You alone can do the material thing—that is the occult truth behind it. Here is Georges Van Vrekhem, explaining the Mother’s position: “He forbade me to leave my body…After that—this took place early in 1950—he gradually let himself fall ill. For he knew quite well that should he say ‘I must go,’ I would not have obeyed him and I would have gone. For according to the way I felt, he was much more indispensable than I. But he saw the matter from the other side. And he knew that I had the power to leave my body at will. So he didn’t say a thing—he didn’t say a thing right to the very last minute.” The Mother continues: “You see, he had decided to go. But he didn’t want me to know that he was doing it deliberately. He knew that if for a single moment I knew he was doing it deliberately, I would have reacted with such violence that he would not have been able to leave. And he did this: he bore it all as if it were some unconsciousness, an ordinary illness, simply to keep me from knowing—and he left at the very moment he had to leave.”
Though all this is totally beyond the comprehension of Raghus of the postmodernist world, it is obligatory that the Managing Trustee of the Ashram, having received a copy of the said e-mail from Prof Raghu, makes things straight. We cannot shirk our responsibility in these matters. The least he can do is, send a book or two of Sri Aurobindo to Prof Raghu, these accompanying the Mother’s Blessing Packet—which could be sent through their mutual friend, the biographer.
By whatever means…—Sri Aurobindo
I have spoken to you about many things. I have written about many things, about Swadeshi, Boycott, National Education, Arbitration and other subjects. But there was one truth that I have always tried, and those who have worked with me have also tried, to lay down as the foundation stone of all that we preached. It is not by any mere political programme, not by National Education alone, not by Swadeshi alone, not by Boycott alone, that this country can be saved. Swadeshi by itself may merely lead to a little more material prosperity, and when it does, you might lose sight of the real thing you sought to do in the glamour of wealth, in the attraction of wealth and in the desire to keep it safe. … Do not think that it is any particular programme or any particular method which is the need of the situation. These are merely ways of working; they are merely particular concrete lines upon which the spirit of God is working in a Nation, but they are not in themselves the one thing needful. … There is a great Power at work to help India, and that we are doing what it bids us. Often they do not understand what they are doing. … They have simply to obey that Power. They have simply to go where it leads them. They have only to speak the words that it tells them to speak, and to do the thing that it tells them to do. … God is doing everything. We are not doing anything. … This is a work God has asked us to do... He himself is behind us. He himself is the worker and the work. He is immortal in the hearts of his people. … In that way many have come to do what God bade them do and he knows which way to lead a man. When it is his will he will lead him aright.
This was in a speech Sri Aurobindo gave in Bombay in 1908. The 15 August 1947 Independence Day Message by Sri Aurobindo essentially has the same core contents in the national context.
Nationalism is something that has come from God
Nationalism is something that has come from God—prophetically, forcefully, and inspiringly avowed Sri Aurobindo in his public speeches and writings when he was actively engaged in the early Independence Movement of India, during 1905-10. The creed was: Nationalism must assert itself in every way of national life; not only that,—anything that comes in its way must be eliminated. No fuss or fetish was made about the means to be adopted to achieve the goal of Nationalism. But the means themselves had their origin in the nature of the Nation’s soul. To recognize it, and work in it and work for it—that is all that mattered. Nation’s freedom is for that purpose; nationalism is to serve that purpose. When there is strife, and deceit and fear, when tyrants rush in and divide the spoil, when the shadow of the truth suffocates the life of a nation, then the first concern is rising against the forces of oppression. In his affirmative nationalism that was one single focus in the life of Sri Aurobindo. Later also, in the context of India’s fractured freedom, Sri Aurobindo openly declared in his 15 August 1947 message that by whatever means it be, it must go—not only because the partition was a result of deceit, fraud and falsehood, but because that is the only way the nation can discover itself and make progress in every respect: “Nationalism will have fulfilled itself and lost its militancy and would no longer find these things incompatible with self-preservation and the integrality of its outlook. A new spirit of oneness will take hold of the human race. The unification is in the interest of all, and “only human imbecility and stupid selfishness can prevent it; but these cannot stand for ever against the necessity of Nature and the Divine Will.”
A certain type of mind in our midst fails to understand, if it understands to recognize, the central truth of the spirit of the Aurobindonian nationalism and freedom, its role in the progress of humanity, the central necessity propounded by Sri Aurobindo. It therefore hastily and unthinkingly makes Sri Aurobindo not just a reactionary but a terrorist. He had to deal with Mukherji-Banerji-Lethargy of the day, all steeped in the national inertia, and the fire of the soul had to be kindled. For that he chants the song of Bande Mataram, he chants her glory “Mother, Mother, with ten weapons in your hands”; he reminds us that “from age to age, in life after life, we come down into the human body, do her work and return to the Home of Delight. Now too we are born, dedicated to that work. Listen, O Mother, descend upon earth, come to our help.”
This is also what Tilak did. Shivaji and Ganesh celebrations were a part of national awakening which also included new education and social reforms. They had a complete social and national programme. But see the audacity! We have a historian here, an Ashramite for three dozen years, who puts these nationalists in the class of Al-Qa'ida! Armed revolution for a country’s cause is always accompanied by social reform, mass education, proposals for industrialization, cultural renaissance, and all that elevates the spirit of man, things that are always absent in terrorism.
Sri Aurobindo a Terrorist
Instead, what do we see? An Ashram inmate goes to the US and compares the approaches of Gandhi and Sri Aurobindo in India’s Struggle for Independence. This self-styled historian tells the audience that, Sri Aurobindo was associated with a group that adapted “terrorist methods”. But he conveniently ignores what Sri Aurobindo wrote in those days. Sri Aurobindo maintained that our position is not to secure a few privileges, but to create a nation of men fit for independence and able to secure and keep it. First is the necessity of seizing on any opportunity that arises of organisation or military training. If the regeneration of a nation is embodied in these writings, it is nothing but mental perversion to connect the early beginnings of the Struggle for India’s Independence as “terrorism” and directly or indirectly associate Sri Aurobindo with it.
It is a pity that Sri Aurobindo’s formulations and actions are totally misunderstood by the author of the repulsive The Lives of Sri Aurobindo when he makes a preposterous attempt to discredit Sri Aurobindo by saying this: “It is impossible to say anything certain about the success or failure” of Sri Aurobindo’s endeavor. In fact he goes farther and says that Sri Aurobindo’s success always seemed to elude him, if not delude him. He disbelieves that Sri Aurobindo succeeded in bringing down a new consciousness into the earth-consciousness. But this is plain stupid when one has no understanding of the occult-yogic aspects of the entire issue, aspects which have perhaps no concern for a historian as he claims himself to be one. There has to be some insight into them, preferably some experience or realization of them, before making any comment of the kind. This is absent which only makes the Lives yogically hollow and hence of no value while approaching the great Master-Yogi that Sri Aurobindo was. It is a greater pity that the present management thinks that such a person is rendering “invaluable” services to the Institution. In the context of the spirit of nationalism what ought to be recognized is the new birth Sri Aurobindo had given to the soul of a country. Instead he is branded as a “terrorist”.
Sri Aurobindo a Fundamentalist
And then we have Rich Carlson: “Although Sri Aurobindo, the founder of Integral Yoga formally eschewed couching his yoga in religion nevertheless, religious practices crept into the practices of its followers. It is in fact the transference of Hindu religious practices on to Integral Yoga which has facilitated a fascination of some of his followers with the fundamentalist rhetoric of today’s militant Hindu nationalism, Hinduvta.”
According to Carlson, the earliest evidence of Sri Aurobindo’s fundamentalism can be traced to his compositions during the political days: Hymn to Durga, Bhavani Bharati, Bande Mataram and conducting a periodical under that title, speeches proclaiming Sanatan Dharma which is equivalent to Hindutva, and so on. These were activities to effectively "rouse the masses with a religious frenzy", tells us Carlson. During his Baroda-Calcutta period, Sri Aurobindo “discovered and immersed himself in the text and practices of Hinduism,” says he. And continues: Later, both Sri Aurobindo and the Mother mimicked traditional forms of Hinduism and encouraged worship and deification. Such is the pseudo-rationalist’s approach towards a Yogi’s life and work. This approach of him in effect means that when one’s mind becomes active one should dismiss one’s heart, and vice versa. That is poor psychology.
The entire discussion therefore boils down to the question: Has Sri Aurobindo’s Integral Yoga become a Religion? Perhaps the more basic, more appropriate question is: Can Sri Aurobindo’s Integral Yoga at all become a Religion? This also assumes that we understand precisely what is meant by the word ‘Religion’ in its several ramifications, a thing which has not really been defined anywhere in these grandiose formulations, religion meaning different things to different people. In the absence of any clear and cogent understanding of these matters to talk of religious fundamentalism is to distort things, is to produce and propagate deliberate confusion in the minds of people. It looks that there are destabilising forces or elements active in their suspicious designs. These need be thwarted. That itself is an aspect of open-minded nationalism.
Sri Aurobindo a Deluded Fool
Then we have Dr Raghu afflicted by the disease called “intellectualites” to tell us something astounding, something very original. He is a strong and staunch supporter of The Lives of Sri Aurobindo,—and there cannot be any objection to it. But to say that Sri Aurobindo cherished “delusion” about curing diseases by "yogic force" is nothing but an act of ignorance giving rise to incurable stupidity. With derision he adds that Sri Aurobindo’s partial blindness for several years before his death was itself a proof about the quality of the supermind he had in his possession.
This "doctor", whatever his credentials, is, as we have a comment, at the very least an intellectual quack. Without the least bit of understanding or experience he takes on the whole subject of "yogic" powers and dismisses them summarily as a delusion. “Indeed, this smug little brain has used only one small section of The Lives of Sri Aurobindo to attack Sri Aurobindo, the disciples and Yoga in general. There is infinitely greater room for more such mischief based on other parts and passages in the book.”
Prof Raghu suspends his independent thinking and goes on to tell us that what the biographer has given us is too little. Let us take the following statement from the Raghus of the postmodernist world:
Any lunatic or deluded fool can rant and rave about ‘physical immortality’ and the like. It is only science which will ultimately discover the origin and the cessation of death. It will do so by discovering the physical causes of death and the physical means of overcoming or changing those causal factors. Yogic pipedreams, however inspiring, are simply that, pipedreams! Woe unto those who conflate pipedreams with real solutions!
Any lunatic or deluded fool can rant and rave about “physical immortality” and the like—and this is what Raghus of the postmodernist world upload on the world-wide pages of thought.
This is the Sri Aurobindo that has emerged from the creative but darkish studio of the Raghus of the postmodernist world, Sri Aurobindo a thoroughly deluded person, although here and there he made good contributions in the field of literature and thought.
And the Bazaar Blogs
From all these wise assertions the picture of Sri Aurobindo that emerges is alarmingly clear: that he was a terrorist, that he was a religious fundamentalist, that he was a lunatic or a deluded fool. Much of this has come to light thanks to the wonderful The Lives of Sri Aurobindo whose author had access to the invaluable documents in the Archives of the Ashram. Supermind or no Supermind, great discoveries are made and thanks to this tribe of the intellectuals… …I’ll however leave things at this, but there are also those bazaar blogs named after Savitri who will tell me that I’m writing all this with an ulterior motive which I’m myself not aware of. Let it be so, if they consider the above conclusions of terrorism-fundamentalism-delusion and perhaps many more drawn by the Raghus of the postmodernist world as valid.